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Aalryami200916y ago#181
I agree with you superwoman , question one was ok for patnership and vat . but as usualy from past exam q1 was for income tax libalites and benefit . tax adjusted profit this eara we can catch alot of marks .

but the examiner mix all the sulbus vat with tax adjusted profit . capital allawance was tested two time in q1 and q3 . admin tax was cnfused to understand, its inderect question . the exam was 30% theroy question . althouh I did alot of past exam and practic alot the style of exam diffrent from past new format .
Nnav198016y ago#182
I'm switching to iCAEW, was thinking of doing it anyway - the exams are 4 sittings a year and the first 6 testing the fundamental basics are multiple choice - the equivalent for this tax paper you can sit any time - after all its simply testing your ability to remember and apply arbitary facts, it means you don't waste 3 months revising to get done over by a bad paper then have to wait 6 months to try again - you can re-take 3 months later in the next sitting and spread topics over the year....makes much much more sense to me.
Former userFormer user16y ago#183
f6 suks what da hell was going on in da paper...i was expecting 90 before da paper now fingers crossed for 50...
Former userFormer user16y ago#184
Paper is out on ACCA website already, in Dec we had to wait till like a week before results for the question paper to be available, so people can give there views and what answers they got....
Former userFormer user16y ago#185
that must have been a car rental company!!
Jjshields16y ago#186
I didn't study the BPP text's so may have been at an advantage.
I didn't find this exam too difficult but I think I may have had luck on my side as I have done my own self assessments for over 5 years and operate a flat rate scheme for my husbands business (at the rate given in the exam!) and looked into a partnership business for my husband when he and a mate thought about setting up business together, they ended up opting for a company so I have done their company tax returns. Then the open tuition revision lecture went through the motor vehicle possibilities and as there have been a lot of questions on vehicles I studied this bit more that some of the other sections as I knew very little about it but knew it was more likely than not to appear on an exam paper.
Also I like questions for 3-4 marks better than 10 mark questions as you have a better idea of what is being asked for and in this case the 10 - 15 mark questions were for calculating profits in which case you knew what they were looking for.
In my opinion this paper was designed to sort out the people who studied the whole text from those who only studied the main topics and reward them accordingly.
Surprisingly, I do expect to pass this paper despite having done very little revision for it.
Former userFormer user16y ago#187
I was taught by Open tuition video, and i thank them so much for the short clear cut notes, and cut my time learning to fingertips. BAN ZAI!

My exam was UOBeds, But i didnt study so hards, but the ACCA are BANZAI to, i dont know how can anyone do in 36 mins, length questions.
Former userFormer user16y ago#188
i need a solution of f6 paper.......i wanna match my answers which is right or not...and will calculate my marks.....

plz upload solution of f6 as much as possible
NNimrahjk16y ago#189
we cant even check our answers from anywhere because such questions never came! i did all the revision kits and i was expecting very incredible paper! now it makes me not want to study for the rest of the exams. specially q4. in the book of f6, it just says in last line of first chapter that auditor should take due care and diligence! what the hell? there was a 3 marks question on this! does the examiner expect us to memorise every little phrase in the book?
NNimrahjk16y ago#190
@sugie said:
Im with you accaman. This was my first ACCA exam and I was expecting a lot worse. I didnt practice any past exams which sounds like that was to my advantage! I think I will have got the 50% needed to pass. I probably revised too much as I was quite worried about the exam.

ok can u tell me please what the answers for q4 were??? im glad ur exams went well

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Vvinx9816y ago#191
@superwoman said:
I understand student frustration about the exam however I still dont understand the point about VAT it was 10 marks only, no different to other papers. The examiner always tests VAT for about 10 marks. Why are you taking a punt on VAT? My students are always told they must learn all VAT as it will be tested. The adjustment to profit and capital allowances had nothing to do with VAT.
The VAT element was tax point. A Vat return showing output VAT on slaes and INPUT VAT on purchases and the Flat rate scheme. Why is this a joke, it is standard VAT question.
I really think the previous point by vinx98 is concerning. The paper was a slightly different format but standard syllabus areas. If you have worked hard and a praticised exam questions you should pass. Stop worrying and accept exams are difficult and you have to be prepared that an exam will not be a replica of previous exam papers. You will certainly find this at the Professional level.
As I said put it behind you and dont write off success because you were challenged.


we had two questions on VAT, I cant remember marks, but they were definately more than 10 marks. I studied VAT, and I will get some marks in this section, but not as much as corp. tax, individuals, etc mainly because the bulk of previous years exam was on those areas.
i think this is the first exam that I studied so hard for and thanks to the BPP material, I actually think I know a lot about tax now - but even with this, the crazy exam could still fail me. As I mentioned before, after doing a "mock" of last years exam I got a mark over 75%, but this year I could fail. How could there be such a discrepancy??
The fact that the exam is harder does not make it "professional", it makes it deceptive. In a professional environment, you have all the books at your disposal if you have to look into a tricky situation. And also most professionals are pros because of experience. There are many tax experts out there who do not have and do not need to pass F6 paper, Im not downplaying the importance of F6, but its not right to say that it makes you a pro because you memorised a certain part of the syllabus correctly.
The only thing I can think of is that the examiner wanted to trick (ie fail) students, and it has been done.
Dd24516y ago#192
ah question 3 was very tough and i hate capital allowances computation for car and apportionment of personel and business use.it was different from last papers.
Former userFormer user16y ago#193
This paper was very very hard. The questions were different from all questions in revision kits and past papers. This examiner was very MEAN to the students.

The enter syllabus was examined.

I am hoping I get 50% just to pass....
Former userFormer user16y ago#194
the paper was not set for no one to pass.
Former userFormer user16y ago#195
the paper was real hell....
Former userFormer user16y ago#196
I thought F6 was supposed to be majorly computational!!! If not that written questions are my strength, I would have been sobbing in the exam hall, even property income that I knew very well was tough.
Former userFormer user16y ago#197
@superwoman said:
I understand student frustration about the exam however I still dont understand the point about VAT it was 10 marks only, no different to other papers. The examiner always tests VAT for about 10 marks. Why are you taking a punt on VAT? My students are always told they must learn all VAT as it will be tested. The adjustment to profit and capital allowances had nothing to do with VAT.
The VAT element was tax point. A Vat return showing output VAT on slaes and INPUT VAT on purchases and the Flat rate scheme. Why is this a joke, it is standard VAT question.
I really think the previous point by vinx98 is concerning. The paper was a slightly different format but standard syllabus areas. If you have worked hard and a praticised exam questions you should pass. Stop worrying and accept exams are difficult and you have to be prepared that an exam will not be a replica of previous exam papers. You will certainly find this at the Professional level.
As I said put it behind you and dont write off success because you were challenged.



you are correct...its over now.. though i was really down after this paper...but but...anyway if i stumble, it will be a good challange for me to rise up for december sitting....
Pplatinumkp16y ago#198
That is, if you are ready for all the changes to the tax syllabus for 2011.. Have a look at the latest Student Accountant magazine. Hello inheritance tax.
Former userFormer user16y ago#199
the motor car which qualified to FYA, had to apportioned for private usee???
self assessment sucks haha!
Mmaame16y ago#200
Paper was really difficult. Completely different from what I was expecting. I need a miracle to pass.
Iipfm16y ago#201
I did not find paper that difficult.
It needed little bit of thinking.
I pray to pass.
Good luck to all
Former userFormer user16y ago#202
i didn't write but guessing from the posts, was it tht ...........................................
Wweike16y ago#203
Never expected the Paper came out like this... Lolzz :( But Very thankful to Opentuition...!!! I have gone through the OT Note and can do some parts of the q. :D
Former userFormer user16y ago#204
My god, I'm sure the examiner was in a very foul mood when he set the paper. It was so so so hard. He really should think from a student's point of view rather than from a professional's view when setting paper. I'm hoping for exactly 50% ( fingers crossed ). So, doing P6 ( Advanced Tax ) in the Professional Module is completely out of the question.
Former userFormer user16y ago#205
I thought benefits of employee was important.
But the paper covered nothing about this!
Former userFormer user16y ago#206
Was it advanced tax (P6) for professional level ?
Former userFormer user16y ago#207
To be honest and frank the paper was really tough in that the format was completely altered and much emphasis was placed on theory + VAT allthrough the main questions especially q1.I did quite a lot of preparations such as attempting past papers but the type of questions drawn this diet seem to be unique hence the paper is adjudged to be difficult. Hoping to at least score the 50% passmark.
Former userFormer user16y ago#208
Paper was worst!! The ACCA should hve told us b4 that they r going to change the pattern
Former userFormer user16y ago#209
At best it was malicious intended to make ACCA live up to its billing 'very hard'. A few who were repeating the paper have given up on the course altogether.
Pplatinumkp16y ago#210
They don't have the 'Rocky Balboa' spirit in them. Don't let it get you down! It was a shocker, they caught us off guard.. It won't happen again.
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