LWJune 10 Exams POLL Paper F4 was Post your comments here

@roby72s said:
In regard of q8 in was to do with performance of existing duties: if a person ask for extra payment to finish the job in time, normally the person requesting the extra cash is not entitled to get it because he/she is only performing what is supposed to do. The other person is not binding from the request because has not received any benefit from it: i for example someone says i will pay you more, for example $1000 dollars the promise will not be binding unless the person offering the extra money receives a benefit, for example the avoidance of a penalty clause.Anyway can you help me it seems I cannot remember one of the question>
q1 system of civil court
q2 offer, counter offer, unilateral contract
q3 Document to be delivered for plc
q4 explain duty of care
q5 secretary
q6 debentures, floating charge, fix charged
Q7?
q8 scenario
q9 partnership
q10 directors

Registration procedure for a plc.

Q8) can be related to Stilk v Myrick....where Stilk was not paid the extra amount because he had performed his contractual obligations and not exceeded them...Same was the case here ...the person in question was required to complete his work in three months nd there is no need for the lady to pay the extra amount...

paper was very easy but not sure about Q10. scenario it self is difficult to understand and i wrote about breach of fiduciary duty. IT IS A BIG MESS.

i wrote paper with blue pen will it b mark or not i am really tense plz reply soon......i m waiting

@addu2001 said:
Paper was okay ! Opentuition didnt provide notes or lecture videos regarding partnership law question 9 & question 7 regarding employment law...

1 2 3 5 was easy ... rest was shaky !

there are open tuition videos on partnership just check vid section

You definitely do not get marked down for wrong answers.

Thought scenario questions were very tricky compared to previous and 1-7 fairly straight forward. Hope not lost too much on scenarios.

Open tuition very good on tips.

Bring on p2 and p3 (aarrrgghh)

kaplan book didnt even mention unilateral contracts! other than scenario questions though it was OK, didnt get much written about company secretary's duties or powers, finger crossed though!

@rajasaadishrat said:
i wrote paper with blue pen will it b mark or not i am really tense plz reply soon......i m waiting

This is quite serious, i would contact the acca immediately and inform them as they made need to do a special procedure. Answers are scanned so it is vital they were in black. Sorry.

as for me Global, was ok although i have to admit, the last Q, which was same for ENG&GLo, i made a mix of insider dealing due to the fact shares were mentioned and breach of fiduciary duty, and i didt finish all this part of fiduciary. hope i'll get some credit anyway :)
good luck too all of us, for the result :)

it was fun, i laughed all thru d exam. F4 june 2010 is my best ACCA exam so far. Hope to score mininum of 80

question Number 9 and 10 were tricky . Rest of the paper was easy .

@accastudent110 said:
had to rush through 8, 9 and 10...poor time management :(
was the tort question on professional negligence?

no it wasnt... it was on donoghue v stevenson case.. although duty of care in professional situation cud've been mentioned

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I must say a big thank you to opentuition for your help during my preparation for the exam. Your site is a blessing.
Regarding the exam, I found it manageable and
i'm happy I was able to attempt all question.
The knowledge base questions 1-7 was straight forward and most persons may have delivered pretty good answers. The senario questions looked familiar.
ONCE MORE THANKKKK YOUUUU OP
CHEERS

unilateral contract is present in kaplan under the topic Revocation there are two types of contracts Collateral contracts and unilateral contract !!!

Very amazing...... First time in my life i rely on guess inspite of thorogh preparation... thanx to open tution it gives 80% paper guess.. its surprise.....

gosh !!! didnt hav time 2 write d last q ,,n d first 1 properly,scared a bit !!!

@mrxamag said:
no it wasnt... it was on donoghue v stevenson case.. although duty of care in professional situation cud've been mentioned

OMG just went thru my notes..ive prolly gotten the whole thing wrong, wrote abt two pages on proffesional negligence :( ..now ive messed that up as well as the scenarios.
cant believe i messed up such a good paper :(

i guess q10 was all about the duties of directors sec171 and d power of directors to allot shares
and d procedure of getting agreement of share holders after crossing the power of allotment…
dats all it was
i guess…

and q8 was same as williams v/s roffey bross and nicholls
in which it was decided dat if both the parties are getting some economic benefit den the extra payment is valid..in williams case the promissor was avoiding d penalty cost which he could face by late work so d consideration was held to be valid

and in d exam scenario the defendant could open her art gallery early if the work got complete early and earn profit early so she was getting economic benefit tooo
so acc to me d consideration as valid and promise was binding
s william’s case is a new approach of the courts (mentioned in d books)

hi, it was the first time that i have appeard in f4(ENG). i have attemptd all Questons except TORT .i really didnt know any case law so i wrote examples in all Questons.in last three Questons i just wrote the answer of 10 lines stating that who is liable n up 2 how extent. . like in 10th Questn i said that harry was breach of duty to diclose any interest of transaction. i ddnt write the whole powers of directors. is it ok? i mean can i able to pass paper in this scene? or is it diffcult? please guyz do reply. i am very tense.

well in f4 no one can say anything :D
because last tme also d candidates were very happy about the exam dat came easy
but when it was result time dere smila blew off...
hope for d best dude :)
may god help us

well after seeing our ppr i got to realize dat case laws are d root of f4
dey help a lotttttttttttttttt in attempting d whole ppr
specially in d scenario questions because most of d scenarios are pure resemblances of case laws

the credit goes to opentuition, i studied only one month before the exam from the online lectures available on opentuition and i am hoping to get 90% lets see

@m.i.soofi said:
the credit goes to opentuition, i studied only one month before the exam from the online lectures available on opentuition and i am hoping to get 90% lets see

yeah, let's see :)

it is tooooooo early to give us credit haha :)

goood luck anyway :)

hi, it was the first time that i have appeard in f4(ENG). i have attemptd all Questons except TORT .i really didnt know any case law so i wrote examples in all Questons.in last three Questons i just wrote the answer of 10 lines stating that who is liable n up 2 how extent. . like in 10th Questn i said that harry was breach of duty to diclose any interest of transaction. i ddnt write the whole powers of directors. is it ok? i mean can i able to pass paper in this scene? or is it diffcult? please guyz do reply. i am very tense.

@m.i.soofi said:
the credit goes to opentuition, i studied only one month before the exam from the online lectures available on opentuition and i am hoping to get 90% lets see ..




dude have u written case law in first 7 Questons?

@polo5678 said:
This is quite serious, i would contact the acca immediately and inform them as they made need to do a special procedure. Answers are scanned so it is vital they were in black. Sorry.

not serious at all! says do front page in black as this is computer read, answers should be written in blue or black,

@accastudent110 said:
OMG just went thru my notes..ive prolly gotten the whole thing wrong, wrote abt two pages on proffesional negligence :( ..now ive messed that up as well as the scenarios.
cant believe i messed up such a good paper :(

It's not only you .. people have done some crazy things in f4 exam!! lets wait till 23 August :D

I was a nervous wreck but a couple of things.
1. How much can a man write per question in 18 minutes???? and all parts of the one question. I have not written so much and I was feeling "ooh I should have mentioned this but look at the time....moving on.." My word it was alot to write that my hand hurt.
2. The scenarios questions 8 & 10 were indeed tricky. Hoping for a miracle there but overall I believe it was handled good.
DON'T PROVE ME WRONG ACCA!!!

fraud on minority how about in question 10.