- April 29, 2013 at 10:42 am
I have nearly done my project. I chose Topic 8 for it. I have done all the things but for ratios i have neither defined them nor given their formulas.
I was thinking of providing a Formula Sheet in Appendix along with their definitions. is that okay??
the reason i am not including them in the body is that i have completely used the provided word limit.April 29, 2013 at 10:42 am
HELP!!! are abbreviation lists allowed in the RR?October 19, 2014 at 10:43 pm
@wajiman – The Appendix is the appropriate place for a formula sheet. The Appendices are for anything that is incidental to the main report – background details and information that supports some of the findings but which if in the main report would detract from the main findings and not add anything new to the analysis.October 20, 2014 at 7:05 am
@wajiman – The Appendix is the appropriate place for a formula sheet. The Appendices are for anything that is incidental to the main report – background details and information that supports some of the findings but which if in the main report would detract from the main findings and not add anything new to the analysis.
Thanks. So this means that i can only give the definitions in the main body only. Well then lets see what i can do about. 🙂October 21, 2014 at 8:52 am
@wajiman – Essentially yes – just a definition/ brief explanation in the text. Save your words for explaining things well in your Findings section 🙂October 22, 2014 at 7:10 am
Under topic 8, you should provide extracts of statement of financial position and statement of comprehensive income along with ratios (with formula) in appendix. Kindly don’t provide entire Financial Statements in appendix as you can only provide extracts in appendix.
Extract from Information Pack
“If you choose approved topic area 8 ‘The business and financial performance of an
organisation over a three year period’ then it is likely that you will use the published
financial statements of the organisation as an information source. You must include
appropriate extracts from the organisation’s financial statements as an Appendix.
However, these extracts are not included in the word count”October 29, 2014 at 3:00 pm
I am trying to get my appendices sorted out. Came across these issues:
– The main concern:
The info pack says ”You should keep the number of appendices as low as possible and no more than 8 sides excluding any extracts from financial statements.”
Does this mean that the financial statements (IS, BS and CFS) are not counted as one of the 8 sides of appendices? Is there a separate slot to upload the financial statements?
– Can I club all the financial statements in one pdf file as long as the file is within size limit?
– Is the list of references a part of the appendices? Or is it separate from the 8 sides allowed?
– If I make a bibliography will this be a separate appendices or can I have two lists (a list of references and bibliography) clubbed in one document?
– Are competitor’s financial statements part of the appendices?
– Do they count each sheet within an excel file as one side of the appendices?
I’ll appreciate any tips and info on how to organize the files for submission. Thanks a lot in advance 🙂October 29, 2014 at 8:58 pm
I have seen any supporting spredsheets should be uploaded as excel documents in the appendics. does it mean we cant submit appindics in document?
can u advice me me plz.thank uOctober 30, 2014 at 12:21 am
@avian will – the more files you load the greater the chances of error in loading the correct versions of the files or omitting one. I think there are several named file uploading tabs available when you log on and these include one each for the Report, Reference list, SLS, & Presentation. It is important all of these are loaded separately i.e. do NOT combine the report and ref list or the SLS and Presentation. In addition there about 6 Appendix tabs.
Subject to file size limits you may combine both main company & comparator FSs and also Ref list followed by bibliography. There should also be an Excel spreadsheet as an .xlsx type file format i.e. it is capable of allowing the marker to see cell formulas and shows how your graphs derived from your figures
I am not aware of actual page limits but they expect 8 pages to be adequate for the FSsOctober 30, 2014 at 7:26 am
@ts1110 – I am nor sure I understand the question.
Excel spreadsheets are used for calculating ratios and producing graphs. The latter should be posted in your RAP and Presentation as images. The spreadsheets themselves are loaded as an AppendixOctober 30, 2014 at 11:09 am
Great! Thanks Trephena
I just wonder, I obviously have the financial statements of company and comparator in the excel file which is a separate sheet from the formula sheet (where workings are done). Is this separate sheet going to be counted as a ‘side of a page’ for the appendice? Also do I have to label the worksheets in my excel file like appendice 1, 2 and soon?October 30, 2014 at 11:35 am
@avian will – yes label the tabs and make it all clear – don’t make the marker work any harder than they have to as they won’t appreciate having to hunt around to find things… 🙂
I have never known any feedback that has said ‘you have failed on presentation of the findings because you used 10 pages in your Appendices rather than 8 as stipulated’. I suspect they say 8 to stop someone loading a bucketful and slowing down the system (and markers must have better things to do than count pages. I laughed on here when someone implied the markers physically counted the words manually – I am reliably informed they don’t, BUT if they suspect that tricks have been used to evade passages being detected and counted then they resort to a forensic examination of it and will come down heavily on anyone infringing the Rules illicitly and/or blatantly.
So when it comes to your Appendices: Chill baby! Chill! 😀October 31, 2014 at 10:45 pm
Thank you so very much @trephena for so patiently answering our questions 🙂
and for asking me to chill… I know I should but right now with the RAP my skin feels hot all the time lol
– Please don’t kill me for asking about the excel file again 🙁
but is the entire excel file counted as an appendix or are the individual sheets in it to be labelled appendix 1,2 and so on?
– Anyhoo, I just noticed I didn’t really put many tables in my ratio analysis bit. I have graphs to indicate trends as I felt they were sufficient enough for the analysis. Do you have suggestions for any should-be/ good-to-have tables? I’m just double-checking in case there is an angle I’m not seeing for which tables would have been ideal.
– I intend to submit next week or so … but am wondering if I can register with OBU site now and get my log in details now and submit later… or do they expect us to submit immediately when we register?
Once again thank you so much for all your support 😀November 1, 2014 at 8:16 am
@avian will – You may call your Excel tabs Appendix 1, Appendix 2 etc. but it will only count as 1 Appendix file 🙂
Regarding tables: graphs and charts are more appropriate for T 8 as they visually show the position with greater clarity when making numerical comparisons [ for some topics when comparing facts such as T17 & T 20 tables are useful as they (a) save on word count and home in on the key issues and (b) can break up page after page of text ].
I always suggest students get someone to review their work objectively before they submit – does it read well? Can someone follow it or are they drowned in sea of numbers? Does the way the work is presented look slick? As I have stressed many times – good graphs and charts speak a thousand words – they are what markers want! ( see the FAQs on our homepage) – so sock it to them! Give them lots of good explanations too and they will be happy.
I read comments on here occasionally where students have a go at the markers and kind of make out they are on a witch hunt. However I’ve met and talked to a few of them and most of them are pretty nice people, who are just paid to do a job properly and only wish students would help make their lives easier by taking on board all the guidelines and feedback. Seems as far as the markers are concerned it is actually quicker to pass a student than having to fail and then write all the detailed feedback….. So although it may surprise the naysayers on here – that’s what they really hope they can do… (or so I am told) 🙂November 3, 2014 at 2:15 pm
I intend to submit next week or so … but am wondering if I can register with OBU site now and get my log in details now and submit later… or do they expect us to submit immediately when we register?
Thanks!November 3, 2014 at 3:45 pm
@avian will – I believe you can set up your login details and password and then exit the site. As far as I am aware once you have done this you can go in and load your files whenever you like during the submission window 🙂November 3, 2014 at 11:20 pm
I clubbed the income statements for all three years of my main company in a single excel sheet (not file, I mean a worksheet tab) and called it an appendix. I did the same for 3 yr BS of main company, 3 yr BS competitor, 3 yr IS competitor as the three other appendices.
1. Moreover will OBU accept these type of appendices? (excel sheets that has figures for all 3 years of a fin statement in one)?
2. Given that’s the layout, when I’m making references is it acceptable to refer to any of the numbers in the main report by using the appendix it is in?
I wasn’t alarmed until I came across a post on the forum by one called @hakeem… I believe he said something like he believed his referencing failed because he clubbed 3 years into one but I don’t know sounds doubtful.
I’m sorry but can you please clarify this for me if you happen to know about it?November 3, 2014 at 11:27 pmNovember 4, 2014 at 9:20 am
@trephena one more query, should i include appendices in table of contents in thesis or not?
Please note that my reference list is under AppendicesNovember 4, 2014 at 9:54 am
@avian will – some more chilling required I think 🙂
1. No problem in having 3 years accounts figures on one tab.
2. You may reference your charts to the Appendices. Where a figure you are taking about is shown in the graph there is no need to reference it again in that section. If you are picking out other figures not shown in the graph above it, it will require a ref and I consider that is best done to the annual report although Appendix is probably acceptable (provided you have referenced the Appendices themselves – bung in the webpage link on the spreadsheet – normally URLs are not allowed but appendices fall outside the main report)
Regarding the other student I am guessing here as that is all I have to work on but they probably just put (Annual Reprt XYZ) each time with no year and didn’t list out each report – possibly this annoyed the marker as they thought he was being lazy… or maybe it was other aspects too that cumulatively showed poor Referencing skills
Oh don’t worry about putting the Appendices in the contents page – this is not a criminal offence to leave them out. However you will need to load references as a separate file as it will ask for them in the reference list tab ( and don’t leave the list attached to the RAP when you load as I hear this messes up the word count so markers probably won’t thank you for it)
Chill baby, chill! 🙂November 4, 2014 at 11:10 am
@trephena another question. i am having a list of references and bibliography. in the glossary provided in the appendix, i have cited them and provided for in the bibliography. is it okay in bibliography or should i shift it into references?November 4, 2014 at 8:40 pm
@wajiman -I’m sorry I don’t understand what you are saying your problem is. You can load a glossary as an appendix. Keep the reference list separate from any other file as it is supposed to be loaded as a single document file on its own on the reference tab.November 5, 2014 at 6:53 am
@trephena – Allow me to explain, in-text citations are to be provided in the List of References. Bibliography, as you already know, will contain sources which have been read and not cited in text.
In the glossary, as i used definitions from books and other sources, i provided in-text citations for them. Now the sources for those in-text citations, i have mentioned them under bibliography instead of the list of references. So is it okay or should i move them to references?November 5, 2014 at 1:08 pm
so I take it that you meant in one word document that contains list of references…. I can also put bibliography… so two separate sections in one document… correct?
All my appendices are pretty much in the excel file… I labelled the tabs as the appendices… and am calling the excel file itself ‘Appendice 1-7’ … sounds fine?
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