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2011June Q1 note iii

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  • February 12, 2016 at 1:15 pm #300148
    yushanshan
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    Hi sir,
    Does note iii belongs to intra-purchase? If it does, i just wonder the reason why it is not deducted from cost of sales like note ii-4million. Thanks in advance.

    February 12, 2016 at 1:28 pm #300150
    yushanshan
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    Hi sir,
    I am also confused about note ii, I just wonder the reason why the transferring does not make revenue & cost of sales decrease 4m by contrast with note iii.Thanks in advance.

    February 12, 2016 at 2:01 pm #300153
    yushanshan
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    Hi sir,
    Is total comprehensive income attributable to owners of the parent =111600+2500-700+1000-400? I just wonder the reason why we do not calculate loss like this 400@6/12@75%, gain like this 1000@75%.

    February 12, 2016 at 2:34 pm #300158
    yushanshan
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    Hi sir,
    consolidated retained earnings=profit after tax (parent company)+retained earnings (parent co’s beginning …). I just wonder why it does not include Subsidiary’s retained earnings .

    February 12, 2016 at 3:37 pm #300178
    MikeLittle
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    Note (iii) IS an intra-group sale / purchase

    In answer to your first question, note (ii) $4 million has NOT been deducted from cost of sales because this is not part of intra-group trading and was included neither in Prodigal’s revenue nor in Sentinel’s cost of sales

    and

    note (iii) $40 million HAS been deducted from cost of sales as you’ll see if you look in working W(i) in the printed solution and has also been deducted in arriving at consolidated revenue

    February 12, 2016 at 3:39 pm #300179
    MikeLittle
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    In answer to your second question, the intra-group transfer of an asset has been included neither as revenue by Prodigal nor as expense by Sentinel

    February 12, 2016 at 4:35 pm #300188
    MikeLittle
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    We haven’t treated any other expense (nor profit) like that, have we? Why are you suddenly concentrating only on Prodigal’s share of this gain and this loss?

    February 12, 2016 at 4:38 pm #300189
    MikeLittle
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    “I just wonder why it does not include Subsidiary’s retained earnings .” – personally, I wonder why it should!

    the subsidiary was purchased part way through this year so the whole of the retained earnings brought forward in the subsidiary are pre-acquisition

    The figure at the start of the working for consolidated retained earnings is Prodigal’s own brought forward and then, added to that, we have the consolidated figure for this year

    Is that ok?

    February 12, 2016 at 4:39 pm #300190
    yushanshan
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    Hi sir,
    I got it, I am so careless.

    February 12, 2016 at 4:41 pm #300191
    MikeLittle
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    I cannot disagree, sorry 🙁

    February 12, 2016 at 4:44 pm #300192
    yushanshan
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    Hi sir,
    One of my classmates told me where I went wrong and we settled the Q1:)

    February 12, 2016 at 4:56 pm #300195
    MikeLittle
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    So you’re saying that the rest of my responses are redundant?

    That’s no problem, thanks for letting me know 🙂

    February 12, 2016 at 5:00 pm #300196
    yushanshan
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    Dear sir,
    I just do not want to waste your precious time, I do not dare to say the rest of your responses are redundant. My English is not good, hoping you understand.:)

    February 12, 2016 at 5:06 pm #300198
    MikeLittle
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    Like I said – it’s not a problem. And answering questions (to help with ACCA and other accounting examinations) is what we set out to do when John mooted the idea

    If we hadn’t wanted to do it ….. we wouldn’t have signed up for it!

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