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Osier question – audit completion / impairment

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA AAA Exams › Osier question – audit completion / impairment

  • This topic has 7 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 6 years ago by Ken Garrett.
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  • February 18, 2019 at 11:22 pm #505678
    dumonde
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    Hi struggling with osier. Question states carrying value $137m, Net selling price was $123.5m after costs and value in use was $128m so under rules of IAS36 impairment is $9m (CV $137m minus VIU $128m e.g. higher of recoverable amount VIU / NSP) Question then goes onto say, VIU estimate was too high and should be a further $9m lower so, VIU should be $119. If this is the case, why does NSP not become the higher value meaning impairment is $137 minus $123.5m so $13.5m but instead suggests ROMM is $9m???

    February 19, 2019 at 8:20 am #505708
    Ken Garrett
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    Please state where the question, OSIER, is from.

    February 19, 2019 at 8:40 am #505711
    dumonde
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    Acca website, March / June 2017 sample.

    Thanks Ken.

    February 19, 2019 at 9:42 am #505722
    Ken Garrett
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    My reading of the question is different. When it says that ‘Consequently, the retail outlets were impaired by £9 million to restate them to their estimated recoverable amount of £128 million’ that takes the value down to 128m, which management claims is ok.

    The answer then discusses why this might be wrong eg using a blanket 1%. No further impairment is quantified.

    February 19, 2019 at 7:36 pm #505790
    dumonde
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    Ken,

    I am referring to part B sorry.

    It says… as a result of your review (the auditors) you have concluded the retail outlets are overstated because the value in use is too optimistic, our calculation of VIU is $9m lower than that of the client, hence VIU should be reduced by a further $9m.

    If this is true, mgt have already impaired the retail units by $9m, the auditors suggest further impairment of $9m hence NSP is the higher with $123.5 vs ($128m – $9m )$119m.

    I’m fairly sure it’s still my understanding but I just can’t get this to reconcile in my head, the ROMM in part B should be $4.5m, not $9m surely? [HELP]

    February 19, 2019 at 8:24 pm #505796
    Ken Garrett
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    I’ve looked at all four versions of this exam available on the ACCA website (UK, International, Singapore and Ireland) and cankt see what you quote. Are you using an actual ACCA exam or a question from a publisher’s question kit? The publisher might have changed the question, in which case it will be difficult to help. However if NRV is greater than VIU then the impairment should be to write down to NRV.

    February 19, 2019 at 9:35 pm #505798
    dumonde
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    Ok, thanks Ken.

    I will just have to go with my judgement, I’ll be honest I feel like giving up, however I will keep the faith and hope common sense prevails when my paper lands on the markers desk.

    This is my last paper, I’ve come too far to give up now.

    February 20, 2019 at 3:56 am #505823
    Ken Garrett
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    Don’t give up! AAA can be conquered.

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