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Events after the reporting period

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  • This topic has 3 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • July 12, 2016 at 10:41 pm #325747
    Gvtftf
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    Hello, dear Mr. Little

    Which of these statements are adjusting events:
    1) Customer went bust after the end of the year
    2) Payments were made in respect of court claims before the year end
    3) Fire destroyed the office
    4) Earthquake destroyed the office and affected the going concern status.

    Thanks in advance.

    July 13, 2016 at 5:12 am #325755
    MikeLittle
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    How many are you looking for – one or two?

    I ask because your question is asking for MORE than one

    On what date did these events occur (with reference to the financial year end) – before the year end or after

    The second option is unclear – were the claims before the year end, or was it the payments that were before the year end

    Finally, what’s the problem with the printed solution? In other words, do you want me to explain to you why your choice is not correct according to the solution? If so, tell me your choice and I’ll explain why it’s not correct

    July 13, 2016 at 6:51 am #325762
    Gvtftf
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    Dear Sir,

    All of these events occurred after the reporting period snd before fs were authorized for issue.

    In the second option, claims were before year end, psyment was after year end.

    My assumption is: options 1,2 and 4 are adjusting. Kindly ask you to review my assumption.

    Thanks.

    July 13, 2016 at 9:30 am #325769
    MikeLittle
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    That is a most improbable answer to an exam question – you will never be asked to select 3 options out of 4

    The question must surely have been “Which of the following is NOT an adjusting event?” or, if there are two non-adjusting events, “Which of the following are NOT adjusting events?”

    IF, and you don’t always, IF you have typed the question correctly and IF you have given me the FULL question as it is written, (so, on the basis of potentially incomplete information,) it depends!

    For example, consider option 1. This customer of ours who owed us $80,000 when he declared himself bankrupt “after the end of the reporting period but before the financial statements were approved”

    At the year end, this customer owed us $4,300 and that amount was settled in full by payment on 15 January. Since then, we have sold to this customer a further $125,673 worth of goods and the customer has paid to us, since 16 January, a total amount of $119,650

    On 14 April we hear that the customer has declared himself bankrupt and, on that date, there is an amount outstanding from that customer of $6,013

    That’s a potential scenario for option 1

    Is that an adjuster or a non-adjuster? You tell me

    For option 2, had we made provision for the court claims on the basis that they represented a probably liability or were we merely going to disclose them?

    If we had already made provision in the draft financial statements, then the settlement of the liability will have no affect on the results for the year. The only effect is that assets (cash) are overstated and liabilities (provision) are overstated because the double entry to settle the liability for which provision has already been made is:

    Dr Provision
    Cr Cash

    If, on the other hand, no provision had been made, then that certainly looks like an adjusting subsequent event

    Option 3 certainly is not an adjusting event (unless going concern has been affected) whilst

    Option 4 certainly IS an adjusting event (it’s actually a non-adjuster but is treated as an adjuster because of the impact on going concern)

    What choices does the question offer in terms of “Select one out of four choices” – for example

    i) 1 and 2
    ii) 2 and 3
    iii) 3 and 4
    iv) 1 and 4

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