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JOINT ARRANGEMENT NOTE (III) JUNE 2012 Q1

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA SBR Exams › JOINT ARRANGEMENT NOTE (III) JUNE 2012 Q1

  • This topic has 3 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • September 29, 2014 at 7:45 pm #202212
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    Regarding this note, I have no idea what’s going on. The examiner’s answer has no explanation, it’s just a set of numbers clattered over the page without any rationale.

    Here’s the link to the paper : https://www.accaglobal.com/content/dam/acca/global/PDF-students/acca/p2/exampapers/int/P2INT_2012_jun_q.pdf

    First of all how is it pre determined that this is a joint operation and not a joint venture? Is it because in the note we are not told of any business being set up separately so we need to assume it’s a joint operation? What’s showing us it’s a joint operation? And what’s this thing with trade receivables and payables? Is it that in the joint operation the accounting is taking the parent’s share of all the elements and then showing them in the accounts?

    Sorry to bother you, if you’re busy you can take your time to reply. I’ll check a few days later. Don’t worry

    September 30, 2014 at 1:14 pm #202299
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    “First of all how is it pre determined that this is a joint operation”? is your question

    Here’s the first few words from the question paper, note iii:

    “Robby has a 40% share of a joint operation”

    You ask “And what’s this thing with trade receivables and payables? Is it that in the joint operation the accounting is taking the parent’s share of all the elements and then showing them in the accounts?”

    Here are two quotes from the question:

    1) “Assets, liabilities, revenue and costs are apportioned on the basis of shareholding.” and

    2) “The revenue and costs are receivable and payable by the other joint operator who settles amounts outstanding with Robby after the year end.”

    Does that explain it – I think it does, but let me know if I’m wrong

    October 1, 2014 at 4:17 am #202720
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    Oh bly me it says “joint operation”

    Regarding the receivable and payable, my concern was how can we work out which party is the receivable and payable as this is not clear from the above quote (in the question). Is it Robby who will give it’s other partner money and ask it to refund the expenses or vice-versa? As in the answer, Robby ask the other partner for it’s share of revenue and give the other partner some of the costs the other partner incurred on behalf of Robby so why is this the case?

    October 1, 2014 at 6:21 am #202724
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    The question tells you that the other party receives all the revenue and pays all the expenses and then settles up with Robby at the year end!

    Ok?

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