Hello Sir, Thank you for the awesome lectures. But I had a doubt, why do we not account for the current assets and current liabilities while calculating the goodwill?
Sir, the Exp 3. The fair value $9k was added back to the combined non-current asset. How we know the $27k of Non-Current asset of S for the year end was not been adjusted to factor in this $9k?
Because the question says that the fair value is $9,000 more than the carrying value, and the carrying value is always the value that is in the financial statements ๐
Sorry – I must remove them. What happened is that we used to have test questions at the end of each chapter. These have now been removed from the notes and instead we have online practice tests on each chapter that you can find linked from the main Paper F3 page.
Thank you for all you do! I apreciate your time with students. I have two comments:
a. I cant access the notes? Are they uploaded.
b. I am trying to understand the Group accounts concepts properly. They way i understand my accounting is really through the one and only rule (A = L+SE). So whatever happens on the asset side has to net off what happens in the SE + L side. Now, normally if i add up a all the P and S captions on the balance sheet it will all balance nicely. However, i dont add up the share capital of S right, So if the 60 consideration disapears and a 26 goodwill shows up,then it has reduced my Assets by 34. Where is the corresponding 34 dissapearing from the (L + SE) side? I know the 9 fair value netsoff nicely as you added it to the Asset side and also SE side, so really the Asset side went down by 25 which corresponds to the S share capital. So then, where does the 13 difference (S retained earnings post aquisition – S retained earnings pre acqisition) correspond in the Asset side. Please help maybe because i cant ccess the notes and missing something but for the life of me I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW THE BALANCE SHET BALANCES with a 13 leg on one side and no corresponding 13 on the asset side. Please explain in the easiest way i can understand which is plus/minus in the accounting equation.
Of course they are uploaded!! The link to download them is above the lecture. (If you have problems downloading or viewing them then you should ask in the support forum – the link is above)
I am sorry but I really cannot follow all your abbreviations, and you really cannot spend time applying the accounting equation when it comes to consolidations. Please download the notes and watch the lectures again with the examples in front of you. Everything you need on consolidations is covered in this and the following lectures and should make more sense to you when you have the notes.
helooo sir, thank you so much how easily you explain goodwill and retaind earning seriously i already have issue in english language but understand your lecture easily thank you so much respect alot
Hi Good Day say I’d just like to ask something? Where you said that less likely or possibly the ask you to find out the goodwill and there’s a fair value adjustment which is more, can it be where the fair value adjustment can be where it is less? Or does it always be more?
Hey john, I am bit confused with terminology. Why did you call them retain earning instead share premium or Capital reserve. Because in revenue reserve we keep retain earming from actual profit and also we may not distribute the Capital reserve. If you put them in same account how will we distinguish between them. Thanks
I assume that you have the Lecture Notes in front of you when you are watching the lecture, because in the question the figures given are for retained earnings and therefore they cannot be capital reserves.
Good day John, firstly I want to thank you for these great lectures. I jus have one question for clarification if you dont mind. @ 7.49 in this recording am I looking at the balance sheet value of the subsidiary S or Parent P?
Good Night Sir. In question 4 where they asked for retained earnings isn’t the $14400 supposed to be added to the $48000 for Z? The most appropriate answer there is $216,000 that is just A’s earning for $168,000 and Z’s for $48,000. Could you explain for me please?
The consolidated retained earnings are those of the parent (168,000) plus the parents share of the post-acquisition earnings of the subsidiary (100% x (48,000 – 14,400) = 33,600)
I do deal with this in the lecture, and I do suggest that you watch it again.
Just an FYI… On the test the extract used for the questions, says : P acquired 100% of the share capital of Q… but the accounts refer to P & Z… Not a big issue but just wanted to point it out. ๐
Mr Moffat thank you very much indeed for these lectures. They are very helpful and I already passed my f2 exam by a margin thanks to your lectures.
If I could make a suggestion, is it possible to add number of minutes next to subsection names, so we could plan our time on these lectures, i.e. how much time we would have to spend going through a particular sub section of a chapter.
When you calculate goodwill, why is the share capital of S, retained earnings and extra fair value on NCA the net assets of S? Why is the NCA, CA and CL not considered?
Really confused about this, hope you will enlighten me!
Lastly, the calculation of retained earnings, why is the company P not entitled to the retained profits of $6000 (pre-acquisition profits) when they acquired company S? \
The definition of net assets is non-current assets + current assets – current liabilities – non-current liabilities. The net assets are always equal to the total capital i.e. share capital plus reserves (in this case retained earnings).
Company P is entitled to their share of pre-acquisition profits – that was part of the reason for the amount that they paid for their shares. The net assets at the date of acquisition would be equal to the total capital at the date of acquisition – i.e. share capital plus retained earnings at the date of acquisition.
sir what if the far value is less than the carrying value?? we will subtract it??
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Yes ๐
thank you sir ๐ your lectures are so good and easy to understand ๐
sir, could u say if there is a paper based exam for this paper ? and if so is the structure same as was shown in the intro video? thank you
In future please ask this sort of question in the forums and not as a comment on a lecture!!
Yes – there are paper based exams (but only in June and December), and yes – the format of the exam is the same.
Thank You, and duly noted.
You are welcome ๐
Hello Sir,
Thank you for the awesome lectures. But I had a doubt, why do we not account for the current assets and current liabilities while calculating the goodwill?
Effectively we do, because the share capital and reserves at the date of acquisition will be equal to the net assets on that date.
Thank you so much for the prompt reply. I love your lectures, makes the topic so easy to understand. God bless.
Thank you for your comment ๐
Sir, the Exp 3. The fair value $9k was added back to the combined non-current asset. How we know the $27k of Non-Current asset of S for the year end was not been adjusted to factor in this $9k?
Because the question says that the fair value is $9,000 more than the carrying value, and the carrying value is always the value that is in the financial statements ๐
I see. Thank you, Sir.
You are welcome ๐
Hi Sir I printed the lecture notes but how ever i am not able to get the last two examples at 28:06 .
Sorry – I must remove them.
What happened is that we used to have test questions at the end of each chapter.
These have now been removed from the notes and instead we have online practice tests on each chapter that you can find linked from the main Paper F3 page.
i coudnt get how we get goodwill? ๐
It is the difference between the consideration of 60,000, and the value of the assets at the date of acquisition of 34,000.
Dear John,
Thank you for all you do! I apreciate your time with students. I have two comments:
a. I cant access the notes? Are they uploaded.
b. I am trying to understand the Group accounts concepts properly. They way i understand my accounting is really through the one and only rule (A = L+SE). So whatever happens on the asset side has to net off what happens in the SE + L side. Now, normally if i add up a all the P and S captions on the balance sheet it will all balance nicely. However, i dont add up the share capital of S right, So if the 60 consideration disapears and a 26 goodwill shows up,then it has reduced my Assets by 34. Where is the corresponding 34 dissapearing from the (L + SE) side? I know the 9 fair value netsoff nicely as you added it to the Asset side and also SE side, so really the Asset side went down by 25 which corresponds to the S share capital. So then, where does the 13 difference (S retained earnings post aquisition – S retained earnings pre acqisition) correspond in the Asset side. Please help maybe because i cant ccess the notes and missing something but for the life of me I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW THE BALANCE SHET BALANCES with a 13 leg on one side and no corresponding 13 on the asset side. Please explain in the easiest way i can understand which is plus/minus in the accounting equation.
Thank you John!!
Of course they are uploaded!! The link to download them is above the lecture. (If you have problems downloading or viewing them then you should ask in the support forum – the link is above)
I am sorry but I really cannot follow all your abbreviations, and you really cannot spend time applying the accounting equation when it comes to consolidations.
Please download the notes and watch the lectures again with the examples in front of you. Everything you need on consolidations is covered in this and the following lectures and should make more sense to you when you have the notes.
OK THANKS I APPRICIATE THE TOPIC EVENTHOUGH IAM NEW TO THE TOPIC
Thank you (although please do not type in capitals ๐ )
helooo sir, thank you so much how easily you explain goodwill and retaind earning seriously i already have issue in english language but understand your lecture easily thank you so much respect alot
Thank you for your comment – I am pleased that the lectures are useful for you ๐
My pleasure Sir,
I love the entire topic and i am so appreciating.I just get it .Thanks OPEN
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Thank you ๐
Obviously Godwill does not appear in subsidiary Statements but it does in consolidation bal sheet. Excellent lectures.
Thank you ๐
Hi Good Day say I’d just like to ask something? Where you said that less likely or possibly the ask you to find out the goodwill and there’s a fair value adjustment which is more, can it be where the fair value adjustment can be where it is less? Or does it always be more?
The fair value adjustment will always be more (certainly in F3) ๐
Thank you sir I appreciate it
Hey john,
I am bit confused with terminology. Why did you call them retain earning instead share premium or Capital reserve. Because in revenue reserve we keep retain earming from actual profit and also we may not distribute the Capital reserve. If you put them in same account how will we distinguish between them. Thanks
I assume that you have the Lecture Notes in front of you when you are watching the lecture, because in the question the figures given are for retained earnings and therefore they cannot be capital reserves.
Good day John, firstly I want to thank you for these great lectures. I jus have one question for clarification if you dont mind. @ 7.49 in this recording am I looking at the balance sheet value of the subsidiary S or Parent P?
We are looking at the subsidiary – those workings are only ever relevant for the subsidiary, never for the parent.
Good Night Sir.
In question 4 where they asked for retained earnings isn’t the $14400 supposed to be added to the $48000 for Z? The most appropriate answer there is $216,000 that is just A’s earning for $168,000 and Z’s for $48,000. Could you explain for me please?
Thanks
That’s in the Test question.
The consolidated retained earnings are those of the parent (168,000) plus the parents share of the post-acquisition earnings of the subsidiary (100% x (48,000 – 14,400) = 33,600)
I do deal with this in the lecture, and I do suggest that you watch it again.
Thank you very much!! I watched it again and realized it was a mistake on my part.
Thanks a lot!!!
Just an FYI… On the test the extract used for the questions, says : P acquired 100% of the share capital of Q… but the accounts refer to P & Z… Not a big issue but just wanted to point it out. ๐
can u help me on how to view f3 lectures online
If you have problems then you should go to the support page – the link is above.
Mr Moffat thank you very much indeed for these lectures. They are very helpful and I already passed my f2 exam by a margin thanks to your lectures.
If I could make a suggestion, is it possible to add number of minutes next to subsection names, so we could plan our time on these lectures, i.e. how much time we would have to spend going through a particular sub section of a chapter.
Many, many thanks.
What if there is a retained loss instead of retained earnings on the date of acquisition?
Nothing changes – a retained loss is just a negative retained profit.
Dear sir,
When you calculate goodwill, why is the share capital of S, retained earnings and extra fair value on NCA the net assets of S? Why is the NCA, CA and CL not considered?
Really confused about this, hope you will enlighten me!
Lastly, the calculation of retained earnings, why is the company P not entitled to the retained profits of $6000 (pre-acquisition profits) when they acquired company S? \
Many thanks!
The definition of net assets is non-current assets + current assets – current liabilities – non-current liabilities. The net assets are always equal to the total capital i.e. share capital plus reserves (in this case retained earnings).
Company P is entitled to their share of pre-acquisition profits – that was part of the reason for the amount that they paid for their shares. The net assets at the date of acquisition would be equal to the total capital at the date of acquisition – i.e. share capital plus retained earnings at the date of acquisition.
how to do a consolidated income statement?
There is a separate lecture on the income statement โ this lecture is on the statement of financial position!!!