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F7 Chapter 16 Questions

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  1. Meliissa says

    January 4, 2021 at 11:25 pm

    hey.. can someone explain how they got 7/12 for question 1 please?

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  2. saqibsheeraz says

    October 27, 2018 at 11:04 am

    Question No.1 depreciation is applied for 4 years while the useful life of the asset is 5 years , I鈥檓 confuse why the depreciation is applied on 4 years ?

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    • jiyesh says

      August 6, 2019 at 12:54 pm

      cause lease is for 4 years.

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  3. daredevil4 says

    July 20, 2018 at 6:06 pm

    For question 2, what is the non-current liabilities at that same date? is it 265 000? sorry just to see if I understood all of it.

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    • MikeLittle says

      July 21, 2018 at 8:08 am

      I believe that it’s 249,167 …

      Cost 575,000 less deposit 195,000 leaves an amount ‘borrowed’ of 380,000

      Interest for 7 months to 31 January, 2015 is 38,000 * 7/12 = 22,167

      So total liability at 31 January 2015 is 402,167

      Payable within 12 months is 153,000 so payable more than 12 months hence is 402,167 – 153,000 = 249,167

      OK?

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  4. avoiddisturbings says

    June 4, 2018 at 2:41 am

    in question1 where is 250000 from in the answer

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    • MikeLittle says

      June 4, 2018 at 5:39 am

      $380,000 – $130,000?

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  5. abdimoge says

    April 11, 2018 at 9:12 am

    There is an ERROR sir in Q1. the calculation of finance cost, the calculation is 250,000×10%x7/12 the answer is 14583 but not 14833. Am I right?

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    • MikeLittle says

      April 11, 2018 at 9:32 am

      Yes, you are correct – that’s a typographical error … but the answer is correct at $70,000

      That’s $55,416 depreciation and $14,583 lease interest

      OK?

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      • abdimoge says

        April 12, 2018 at 10:42 am

        yes, thank you

      • MikeLittle says

        April 12, 2018 at 1:40 pm

        You’re welcome

  6. maxacca says

    February 26, 2018 at 8:46 am

    For question 4, why is “interest to Mar 2017” not considered in the calculation to arrive at “owing at Mar 2017” figure?

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    • MikeLittle says

      February 26, 2018 at 11:32 am

      At 31 March 2016 we don’t owe the interest to March 2017

      That only becomes an obligation as we move through the period 1 April, 2016 to 31 March, 2017

      When calculating the deferred liability, we are only liable for the capital element … the interest charge doesn’t feature in that deferred liability because it has not yet become an obligation whereas the entire capital amount IS an obligation with effect from the date the lease was signed

      OK?

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  7. maxacca says

    February 26, 2018 at 7:38 am

    Hi! For question 2,I don’t understand why the interest is not taken into account when calculating the current liabilities? I remember from the lecture there was an example where you extracted the lease obligation balance from the prior year, i.e. instalment less interest accrual. Why isn’t it the case in the question? Thanks

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    • MikeLittle says

      February 26, 2018 at 7:52 am

      Isn’t it because the question asks for the current liabilities in respect of this lease

      Included within the current liabilities in respect of the lease there is the current obligation capital element AND the current obligation lease interest element

      OK?

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      • maxacca says

        February 26, 2018 at 9:11 am

        That’s what I thought. Therefore, my interpretation is that the current liability should be 153-38=115.

        Please advice on where I got it wrong. Thanks.

      • MikeLittle says

        February 26, 2018 at 11:26 am

        No, the answer is correct … the question actually tells you that there is an annual payment of $153,000 so that’s the amount that will be included within current liabilities

        That last line of mine in my previous post tells you that “there is the current obligation capital element AND the current obligation lease interest element” and BOTH of these obligations should be included within current liabilities

        OK?

      • maxacca says

        February 26, 2018 at 3:44 pm

        I still don’t 100% get this one. Could you explain “and includes the interest accrued of 38,000” in the answer? How is that 38,000 included? Thanks.

  8. fufa says

    December 1, 2017 at 8:55 pm

    Hi

    In the Q4 – why we don’t add a deposit to the total value of the asset?

    Thanks!

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    • MikeLittle says

      December 2, 2017 at 1:03 am

      We do! But it’s not shown here. This question asks us for the balance of the liability that will show as a current liability

      OK?

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  9. vikulchik07 says

    November 26, 2017 at 10:18 pm

    Hello!
    Can I ask you about Q2? If we paid a deposit, why do you count depreciation from 575, not from (PV-deposit)?
    Thanks in advance!

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    • MikeLittle says

      November 26, 2017 at 11:49 pm

      Depreciation is calculated on the cost of the asset and that includes the value of the deposit

      The amount of the deposit is important for the purposes of calculating the interest charges

      OK.

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      • vikulchik07 says

        November 27, 2017 at 8:50 am

        Ok!
        Thank you very much!

  10. edite says

    May 6, 2017 at 2:51 pm

    In Q1 we depreciate the asset in 4 years, but the useful life is 5 years. Should we always take the ease period for depretiation in case it is shorter than assets useful life? It really seems strange for me as I base the leasing period on the possibility to pay (like my cash flow), but this can be asset which I will use for much more than the lease period. May be I have missed something…

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    • MikeLittle says

      May 6, 2017 at 5:56 pm

      Depreciate over the shorter of useful life and lease period

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  11. syntyche97 says

    February 11, 2017 at 10:48 pm

    question 4 says that $4m payable on 1st april…..thats suppose to be in advance right ?

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    • MikeLittle says

      February 12, 2017 at 7:44 am

      Cynthia, I cannot see how that second paragraph could be misinterpreted!

      This is a six year lease that finishes in March 2020

      So at March 2019 there is one more year to go

      At March 2018 there are two more years to go

      At March 2017 there are three more years to go

      At March 2016 there are four more years to go

      At March 2015 there are five more years to go

      and at March 2014 there are six years to go

      So Sparti pays a deposit on 1 April, 2014 of $4,850,000 and then, the question says, “with further annual payment of $4 million on each successive 1 April for 5 years commencing 1 April, 2015”

      Now what is there there that is at all ambiguous?

      OK?

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  12. akinlayo says

    August 31, 2016 at 11:52 pm

    Hi Tutor, in the 4th Q I am confused as to why the Non Current Liabilty for 31st March 2016 is $9,932 when that is the figure in your working for 31st March 2017

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    • MikeLittle says

      September 1, 2016 at 5:39 am

      If that’s the figure for 31 March 2017 and we’re looking at the financial statements for 31 March 2016, then that $9,932 is not payable within the next 12 months and therefore it’s non-current as at 31 March 2016

      OK?

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  13. Vineeth says

    June 6, 2016 at 12:42 am

    In question 1, the finance cost should be $250,000*10%*7/12=$14,583 and not $14,833.

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  14. vishalsharma1981 says

    May 23, 2016 at 6:26 pm

    All
    I think in Q4 20m Pounds should be 20m Dollars.
    Thanks

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    • Yang says

      June 4, 2016 at 5:38 am

      about Q4,the answer why not is the option 2?

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      • MikeLittle says

        June 4, 2016 at 8:42 am

        Because $12,665 is the total obligation and the question asked for the figure for the long term obligation

    • MikeLittle says

      June 4, 2016 at 8:41 am

      You’re correct, thanks Vishal

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  15. pamella says

    December 6, 2015 at 6:57 pm

    Hi on question how do we come up with 107 i am getting 110

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    • MikeLittle says

      December 6, 2015 at 8:07 pm

      I’m getting 7/12 of 95 depreciation and 7/12 of 25 finance charges – a total of 70 for the year

      Unfortunately, 70 is not an option!

      How did you arrive at 110?

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      • pearlkitso12345 says

        March 1, 2016 at 8:46 pm

        Hi Mike

        I fail to get the correct answer of 107 for question 1…how do i go about it’?

      • MikeLittle says

        March 2, 2016 at 9:12 am

        I think that, if you had read my post to an earlier question, you would see that I too am struggling to arrive at 107. In fact, I’m getting 70 as the answer

        I am in the process of going through these practice questions ironing out the printing errors and my own calculation errors.

        But thanks for pointing out these mistakes 馃檪

  16. MikeLittle says

    December 6, 2015 at 3:24 pm

    In a column of figures you should have:

    575 fair value
    (195) deposit
    380 @ 30.6.2014
    22 interest to 31.01.2015
    402 outstanding at 31.01.2015
    16 interest to 30.06.2015
    418 outstanding at 30.06.2015
    153 payment on 30.06.2015
    265 outstanding at 30.06.2015
    15.46 interest to 31.01.2016
    280.46 outstanding at 31.01.2016

    This compares with 402 outstanding from one year earlier and the difference is the current liability

    Ok?

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    • Rakeshkumar` says

      December 6, 2015 at 5:46 pm

      Sir, how do we calculate $22 as interest as on 31.01.2015
      $380*10% 6/12 is $19

      Do we calculate interest on Minimum lease payment or the fair value?

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      • Rakeshkumar` says

        December 6, 2015 at 5:53 pm

        my appologise
        I read the dates wrong

        Thanks for help sir

      • pamella says

        December 6, 2015 at 6:45 pm

        It 380*10%*7/12

      • MikeLittle says

        December 6, 2015 at 7:30 pm

        “I read the dates wrong”!!!!!!!!!

        Dates are REALLY important

        Don’t do this next week !

    • chiau says

      February 8, 2016 at 3:37 pm

      Hi Mr Mike,

      I understand the calculations done here, however my problem is that we consider Current liability is the capital part that will be paid in the following 12 months. As at 31.01.2015 the only payment to be done in the following 12 months is on the 30 June, which comprises interest from 30.01.2014 until 30.01.2015 380,000 x 10% = 38,000.
      Therefore wouldn麓t the correct answer be 153 – 38 = 115, since this is the share of capital that will be paid in the following 12 months?

      Thank you in advance

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      • MikeLittle says

        February 8, 2016 at 7:17 pm

        But as at end January, the amount of interest accrued within the amount outstanding is only seven months worth

        Which number question is it and I’ll look at it again but this time post your question on the Ask the Tutor forum – that way will guarantee that I see it!

      • chiau says

        February 9, 2016 at 7:10 am

        OK, by the way, to anynoe who reads it, I wrote the dates wrong, interest paid on the 30.06.2015 is for the period from 30.06.2014 to 30.06.2015.
        I麓ll post it on the Ask the Tutor forum.

  17. Rakeshkumar` says

    December 6, 2015 at 12:10 pm

    Thanks in advance

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    • pamella says

      December 6, 2015 at 7:01 pm

      Hi on question how do we come up with 107 i am getting 110

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  18. Rakeshkumar` says

    December 6, 2015 at 12:09 pm

    Greetings Sir, I am bit confused with question 2.

    Cant get $121 as current liabilities.

    Can i ask you to explain that please?

    My answer is $153 with carrying value of $491

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    • MikeLittle says

      December 6, 2015 at 7:28 pm

      I’ve answered this already …. in great detail!

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