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November 13, 2015 at 12:49 am
I would like to know how to treat finance costs when preparing my statement of cash flows. Thank you
November 13, 2015 at 7:57 am
Add back the “charge” in the statement of profit or loss in “operating activities”
Then deduct the amount actually paid in “operating activities”
August 5, 2015 at 2:54 am
How do you actually know that 915 is entirely made of final dividends? What if interim dividends declared were 700 (and only got 600 paid) ? It does not have any impact on DIV paid figure of 1431, but still.
August 5, 2015 at 3:00 am
e.g. Is it possible for the company to pay dividends in two installments in two different years (second installment just prior to future dividend declaration)
Hope you understand what I mean
August 5, 2015 at 8:57 am
Are you asking “700 declared but only 600 actually paid”?
It won’t happen! If it did (and it won’t!) the directors would be removed from office quicker than you could say “Jack Robinson”
Is it possible to pay the 2013 part in 2013 and part in 2014?
That’s exactly what does happen in practice! Directors will authorise and pay a dividend part way through the year based on the half year results (the interim dividend). That’s a part payment on account of the total dividend for the year and will be declared / paid around August (December year end company)
Then, probably around February, after the directors have a good idea of the company’s overall performance for the full year, the board will declare the final dividend. This figure will be shown as a note in the financial statements and will be presented to the members in the annual general meeting asking for the meeting’ approval.
If the meeting DOES approve, that figure will be paid sometime, say, around May
All clear now?
August 5, 2015 at 4:45 pm
Yes, thank you. Dividends to ordinary shareholders are always paid in full. That is clear now.
What about preference shareholders? (dividends in arrears). Can a company pay dividends to selected preference shareholders (say those who are more important to your business) and continue accumulating unpaid dividends (e.g. in arrears) for remaining ones?
August 5, 2015 at 8:15 pm
Absolutely NO! A company CANNOT discriminate between the holders of a class of share
March 9, 2015 at 2:26 pm
hello sir, one thing that confuses me is that why is the CF figure carried forward on the credit side in the PPE account? wouldn’t crediting a figure in a asset account decrease the asset account?
March 9, 2015 at 5:13 pm
Hmmm! Where is it carried down to (or carried forward to)?
Were you exempt F3?
March 9, 2015 at 5:27 pm
No i’m still studying F3……could you please clear this up for me?
im very confused…
March 9, 2015 at 5:40 pm
is it moved to the debit side? of PPE account as a B/F figure?
March 9, 2015 at 6:08 pm
It’s carried down from ABOVE the line on the credit side to BELOW the line on the debit side.
Below the line figures are those that appear on the statement of financial position and, because it’s on the debit side, it’s an asset.
The carry down amount is merely a summary of all the other figures within that account – its telling you that the amounts on the debit side exceed the amounts on the credit side by that carry down figure
March 9, 2015 at 6:24 pm
oh yeah i dont know why but I keep getting confused regarding these CF figures and when i do i feel like iv’e got to ask just to make sure i know every detail. But I think I understand what you are saying, your basically saying that the carrying down figure is actually the balancing figure which is moved to the debit site below the total lines? is this correct sir?
March 9, 2015 at 6:28 pm
That’s absolutely right!
Just keep practicing – it’ll come clearer the more you practice
And listen to John Moffat’s F3 video lectures
March 9, 2015 at 6:39 pm
Ok thank you. Just one thing sir, how would you get the 220 cash figure if you didn’t know the CF figure of 1320?
What I mean is how would you get this 220 cash figure by just using T accounts? and which figure would you put down for this years balance sheet?
thanks again sir, I really appreciate the help and support.
March 9, 2015 at 7:52 pm
Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t the question tell you what the carry forward figure is?
November 24, 2014 at 7:02 pm
In example 3 it is said that Total payments to the finance lease creditor in the year were $9,000, of which $1,800 is interest.Agnes has included the full $9,000 in the obligations under finance lease account.
If Agnes has included the full 9000 as obligations as under finance lease payment means she hasn’t accounted for the 1800 interest in the Income Statement, so why don’t we reduce it from profit before Tax?
November 24, 2014 at 7:12 pm
Because it’s not included in the interest charge for the year. She has credited cash and debited the obligations account
So, to correct it, she needs to credit the obligations account and debit the finance lease interest account
And that’s why the interest PAID needs to be increased by that $1,800
November 24, 2014 at 7:25 pm
I understood that , but now since the finance interest paid has increased by 1800 our profit before tax will decrease by 1800.
Is my logic correct?
November 24, 2014 at 9:01 pm
No! I believe that the question asks for the interest charge to be added back.
After the adjustment has been put through, the very simplisict answer is that interest of whatever figure + 1,800 should be added back
But you can’t add it back if it hasn’t been deducted in the first place!
The question is aimed at determining the interest add back ie just calculate the interest that SHOULD HAVE been charged and then addition back
It’s an exercise in determining the accruals based interest with the cash based interest.
Don’t get too heavily involved in what “correct” entries should have been.
Concentrate purely on determining the interest add back
There are enough difficulties in completing a cash flow correctly without you picking me up on the detail of “has it been, has it not been?”
November 24, 2014 at 9:16 pm
November 24, 2014 at 9:17 pm
No need for an apology – it was a good question!
May 26, 2014 at 1:15 am
In the past paper examinor gave the previous year balances of land and buliding thats opening and closing balancesand there is a alot of information like disposals depreciation etc . But ur in example there is only one year balance i dnt understand how to tackle the property plant adjustment in exam because there is opening and closing balances
November 29, 2013 at 11:08 am
LEGENDARY MR MOFFAT: “And 4 maarks is how many miuntes scouters?”
Student answers quietly in the background (“12”)
LEGENDARY MR MOFFAT: “12?!!! GOOD LORD!!”
Hahahahaha.. weirdly, i rewound that bit for up to 5 times just for a good laugh.. must be fun being in John’s class
November 29, 2013 at 11:09 am
November 24, 2014 at 9:05 pm
Mr Moffat? Good lord, that was me! Not the legendary Mr Moffat!
September 23, 2013 at 10:06 pm
bf. IS. cf. cash. Very hilarious and enjoyable
September 8, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Hii Admin .. Lectures keep crashing have to restart again and again.. please help
September 9, 2013 at 8:17 pm
Hii Admin..Just an update on the above ..the video did get played today without any problems…dunno wat was the issue yesterday…thank you
March 22, 2013 at 7:07 am
The lecturer is amazing, but I have a problem. The 915 on the cr side of t accounts is still the dividends payable. While I do understand that we have created an obligation by declaring or proposing the dividend, how can I judge and conclude that from the question? The question looked pretty straight forward to me (bf.IS.cf.cash) .. how do we know that we have to classify 915 as I/S obligation? What is the key indicator?
May 14, 2013 at 4:38 pm
in case of dividend, amount b/f is also I.S….because it is the liability of current year that we announce at year end….that is what my concept is…
May 23, 2014 at 7:22 pm
So can we say that the b/f divined will always be paid in full during the year?
November 24, 2014 at 9:03 pm
Yes! Because otherwise how could we get away with not paying the brought forward liability and then paying an interim dividend?
September 26, 2012 at 5:04 pm
This lecturer is so funny,b/f, I/statement, c/f cash….It works.Thanks OT AND MIKE.
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