Hi Mike,
thanks for your time and efforts on this.
Could you please explain why in the case of shares valued say at $1.50 just before acquisition, this valuation is not included in the W2 calculation of the FV of SNA at DOA( i.e the $1 shares will now be included as $1.50) rather you stick to the Balance sheet value, but then, you use the revalued NCA in that same calculation, why not stick to the book value also. However, this newer shares figure is included in calculating the NCI’s value @ DOA
The market value of shares has NOTHING to do with the company – it’s dependent upon supply and demand in the market and on market sentiment. The market value information is there only for the purposes of valuing the nci on a full, fair value basis.
The fair value of the subsidiary’s net assets is their book, carrying value as adjusted for any fair value re-assessments and the book value of net assets is the same as the company’s figure for shareholders’ equity
And shareholders’ equity is share capital + reserves
Is it okay only to listen to these lectures and not read the text book? I hardly have any time left. After listening to these lectures, am planning to practice the exam questions. please reply.
Be careful of this approach. I was in the same situation as you for Dec-12 session, I used only these lectures (but practised not enough) and I failed.
However, for F5 it was ok. I passed using only opentuition resources.
Sue 30,000/5 =6000 annually. Bought at the start of 2008 so at end of 2008 is one year & at the end of 2009 is another. We’re consolidating at the end of 2009. The asset is depreciated for two years 30000-(30000/5*2)= 18000. Carrying Value at the end of 2009 is $18k
Hi Mike,
I have a question regarding the Exampole 11 in chapter 7. I am listining your lectures and also using BPP book and just see that they do FV adj in W3 a bit different. And as much as yours explanation seems to be logical to me, the way they show in BPP book is easier to remember and no make mistake, but I do not fully understant why this can be that way.
Would you mind to have a look and explain it to me.
W3) D R
per question 360000 100000
FV adj (32000) (*) see below
pre acq (20000)
post acq 48000
DOA Movement YE
INventory 20000 (20000) -
NDNCA 15000 – 15000
DNCA 30000 (12000) 18000
Goodwill RE SOFP
The question is why this negative 32000 can be put in RE like that? hope my question makes sense.
Thanks,
Beata
@ribberson,
It is an assumption, that hopefully Romuna has been sold its inventory (it is about 28th minute of the lecture).
And it is assumption that non-current assets are still in Ramuna’s FS.
An Excellent lectures which have quite good improvement compared to the previous version of these notes. Only question is – what about Associates? Why there are no examples on how to do the consolidation with associates? We know that in exam besides subsidiary we will have to include in the consolidation Associate as well
Hi Mike,
thanks for your time and efforts on this.
Could you please explain why in the case of shares valued say at $1.50 just before acquisition, this valuation is not included in the W2 calculation of the FV of SNA at DOA( i.e the $1 shares will now be included as $1.50) rather you stick to the Balance sheet value, but then, you use the revalued NCA in that same calculation, why not stick to the book value also. However, this newer shares figure is included in calculating the NCI’s value @ DOA
The market value of shares has NOTHING to do with the company – it’s dependent upon supply and demand in the market and on market sentiment. The market value information is there only for the purposes of valuing the nci on a full, fair value basis.
The fair value of the subsidiary’s net assets is their book, carrying value as adjusted for any fair value re-assessments and the book value of net assets is the same as the company’s figure for shareholders’ equity
And shareholders’ equity is share capital + reserves
Is it okay only to listen to these lectures and not read the text book? I hardly have any time left. After listening to these lectures, am planning to practice the exam questions. please reply.
Be careful of this approach. I was in the same situation as you for Dec-12 session, I used only these lectures (but practised not enough) and I failed.
However, for F5 it was ok. I passed using only opentuition resources.
how did you get 18 for the DNCA?
Sue 30,000/5 =6000 annually. Bought at the start of 2008 so at end of 2008 is one year & at the end of 2009 is another. We’re consolidating at the end of 2009. The asset is depreciated for two years 30000-(30000/5*2)= 18000. Carrying Value at the end of 2009 is $18k
Oh my goodness- I didn’t actually dream about the cons ret ears song!!!!!
*did*
Hi Mike,
I have a question regarding the Exampole 11 in chapter 7. I am listining your lectures and also using BPP book and just see that they do FV adj in W3 a bit different. And as much as yours explanation seems to be logical to me, the way they show in BPP book is easier to remember and no make mistake, but I do not fully understant why this can be that way.
Would you mind to have a look and explain it to me.
W3) D R
per question 360000 100000
FV adj (32000) (*) see below
pre acq (20000)
post acq 48000
DOA Movement YE
INventory 20000 (20000) -
NDNCA 15000 – 15000
DNCA 30000 (12000) 18000
Goodwill RE SOFP
The question is why this negative 32000 can be put in RE like that? hope my question makes sense.
Thanks,
Beata
OOOPS I can see that format of my typing has been changed. not sure if yiou can ready my notes now….
excellent!!
Has the inventory been sold at year end? Why was this not part of the FV adjustment on the consolidated retained earnings?
@ribberson, which question?
@ribberson,
It is an assumption, that hopefully Romuna has been sold its inventory (it is about 28th minute of the lecture).
And it is assumption that non-current assets are still in Ramuna’s FS.
@sangria9, Many thanks
how you got NCI(w4) 88900?
value @ DOA 64500
post retained earnings 14400
ans is 78900
@ginduja21, which question?
GUYS ,i hope yoy are all well.anyone with an idea/s on how best i can pass F7.this is the 3rd tym failing this subject.
Thank U…
Excellent lecturer!!
An Excellent lectures which have quite good improvement compared to the previous version of these notes. Only question is – what about Associates? Why there are no examples on how to do the consolidation with associates? We know that in exam besides subsidiary we will have to include in the consolidation Associate as well
@noldis, We DO NOT consolidate associates instead we EQUITY ACCOUNT!!!
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God bless you
That was great
I’m really finding these lectures very helpful.
God bless all the people behind this wonderful resource!!!