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natoyaworkin says

can you tell me why you used 2.5 to multiply and why used material instead of labour to calculate by 2.5

is it because optimum region was at the material line or because it has a 2s+4e

John Moffat says

It is simply to get the same number of S’s in both equations.

Shahid says

Dear Sir

What is the relevance in drawing graph when we can solve the problem by equating material and labour equation?

John Moffat says

Bacuse you cannot know without drawing the graph which will be the limiting factors – it will not always be simply materials and labour (it depends on the angle of the contribution line).

Also, since the question will almost certainly ask for the graph then there will be marks specifically for the graph. If you do not draw it then you will obviously lose marks.

Hassan says

hello sir

i was wondering if linear programming is still part of the f5 syllabus.It wasnt covered in the revision notes nor the practise exam qns section.

John Moffat says

Of course it is in the syllabus, and we have several lectures on it!

Surely you have looked at the syllabus on the ACCA website?

(The revision lectures are just meant to be quick revision – it is the main lectures that should be used for learning!)

SINNIE says

Sir ,the iso contribution line ,we want to find out the point and match within the feasible area and also less than demand line isn’t ?

John Moffat says

The only relevance of the demand line is that it is part of defining the feasible area.

SINNIE says

ok thanks sir

John Moffat says

You are welcome 🙂

siphiwe says

morning sir,you mentioned something like the highest point of contribution is not always where the labour and material line intersects.my question is, can any of the two constraints give the highest contribution without having the two constraints intersecting?

furqan.90 says

Hi,

I wanted to clarify one thing,if we plot S on x axis and E on y axis,that wouldnt change the maximum contribution/optimal production right?

John Moffat says

No – although the lines will look different it will not (and can not) change the answer!

furqan.90 says

Thanks.

John Moffat says

You are welcome 🙂

GhulamGhous says

from where i can get your notes?Please Guide Me

siphiwe says

thank you for the good lecture?, my questions are (i) are you always suppose to guess the contribution in order to get ISO cont line in the exam or sometimes its given to you? (ii)are you suppose to show all the steps involved..

John Moffat says

Certainly on one occasion you were actually given the graph (with the iso-contribution line) and expected to then use it.

Otherwise you will be expected to draw the line yourself and because the angle is all that matters you need to ‘guess’ any level of contribution in order to get the angle.

Yes – I stress in the lecture that you do need to show the steps. In Section B of the exam the marks are for each bit of the workings – not simply for the final answer – and if you do not show any of the steps then you do not get the marks for them.

travel says

hi

i tried to plot the graph using S as x-axis and E as y-axis but graph is turning out to be weird and making no sense to me ?

how do we decide what to take for x-axis and y-axis ?

thanks in advance

John Moffat says

It doesn’t make any difference which one you put on which axis.

The lines will be the other way round, but the optimal solution will be exactly the same.

SINNIE says

Sir ,the iso contribution line ,we want to find out the point and match within the feasible area and also less than demand line isn’t ?

John Moffat says

Just as I explain in the lecture, you move the iso-contribution line as far away from the origin as possible without leaving the feasible area.

Nea says

Hello sir , i was wondering when calculating both equation for maximum contribution , do i have to show the workings on how I arrive at S and E (using the example) ? are there marks provided for the calculation because there is a faster way to calculate them on the calculator . Thank you 🙂

John Moffat says

Although by all means calculate the figures themselves on your calculator, you must show working in the exam.

It is the workings that get the marks (and even if you have made a mistake you will still get most of the marks if you were doing it the right way).

(This only applies to section B of the exam. In Section A (the MCQ’s) any workings are for your benefit but they will not be looked at – all that gets marked is the final answer.)

rkwasim says

Hey John,

thanks for great lecture. I have a question in mind, is it compulsory to draw graph before solving equations or otherwise we can sole equations and then draw graph accordingly.

John Moffat says

You will be required to draw the graph (unless the graph is actually drawn for you in the question which happened on one occasion).

It is impossible to know which equations to solve for the optimal mix without having the graph (and the iso-contribution line).

Mashal Khan says

Sir,

Is it necessary to develop an equation in order to find out the values for point B? Because if the graph is drawn on the “graph paper”, It could easily be seen from the graph. Then why wasting time on these simultaneous equations?

John Moffat says

You are required to solve simultaneous equations in the exam – your graph will never be that precise anyway.

Mashal Khan says

Thank you so much sir, You are the best…. (Y)

Wasiq says

Hello dear sir , i have some question regarding linear programming.

1 : While preparing graph , how to estimate about units at x-axis and y-axis i am confused about what limit to take on both side. ?

2: Once we prepared our graph , how we can identify feasible region i mean how to identify A and then B and so on. ?

Thanks

John Moffat says

But I explain both of those in the lecture, and I can’t really add anything to what I say in the lecture.

jackiegor says

Hi, Thanks for your great explanation of this. The only thing I’m not sure about or may have missed is, … How did you choose 180 as the maximum limitation for labour hours ? You said at the start you would come back to it, but I never caught it.

Many thanks

John Moffat says

The limit on the labour hours is given in the question (the question is in the free lecture notes).

Musa says

Hi Mr Moffat, it’s really great the way you explained this. You really make it easy to follow and understand.

Not sure I heard why you chose 40 as the max number on the graph. Please advise. Thanks alot.

John Moffat says

I went through each constraint and calculated what points I needed to plot before actually drawing the lines.

So for materials I need S=0, E=20; and E=0, S = 40.

I did the same for each constraint, and then made sure the axis went far enough to be able to post the biggest S and the biggest E.

OLUSHOLA says

thanks for the lecture sir. please the lebeling of the feasible region, can it be lebel the order way roung

John Moffat says

I am not sure what you mean.

The feasible region is the area where all of the constraints are satisfied. You can label the corners whatever you want, but there is only one feasible region.

hossm says

Hello ,sir Thanks again for your amazing lectures ,you make it very easy for me to understand, GOD pleasing you sir john Moffat

John Moffat says

Thank you very much for the comment 🙂

muhammad says

Dear Sir,

How can I check my short question answer?

John Moffat says

I don’t know which short question you are referring to.

You should ask questions in the Ask the Tutor Forum for F5.

tayo badejo says

i believe he means the short ‘Tests’. The answers are at the end of the lecture notes

Steven says

Hi Sir, in the exam if for example I do the E on the y-axis and S on x-axis obviously the graph will look different but the numbers will still be the same. Is that ok? if not how should I know which product should I put on the x/y axis?

Thanks

John Moffat says

It does not matter which is the x axis and which is the y axis. The graph will look different but the answer will still be the same.

Just make sure that you label the axes properly.

Janet says

Hi John

I’m stuck 🙁

1. When we find the slope of the ISO line, and push it out, we find the nearest ‘point’ (in this case it was B). This gives us the highest contribution point. Is this correct?

2. When working out S/E, do we always find the intersect of material v labour line? Then work out C?

Thank you in advance!

John Moffat says

1. We move out the contribution line to the furthest point away from the origin, without leaving the feasible region.

2. When finding the optimal mix, we solve together the two lines that intersect at the point where the contribution is the highest (i.e. the point found in (1) above). It certainly will not always be where material and about lines intersect – it could be any two constraints depending on the question.

Janet says

Thanks, got it!

Although I understand, I find it very difficult to understand the 15 mark questions for this topic. In particular I struggle to recognise what the constraints are, and therefore I find it difficult to nail down a formula.

Not expecting a response..I guess I’ll just keep practicing questions to get the hang of it!

Awesome work that you guys are doing – me and my colleagues appreciate it a lot

John Moffat says

You are correct – it is down to question practice. You must obviously learn the technique, but actually sorting out the constraints for each particular question is something you cannot really learn – every question is different – and you can only get good at by practicing.

Thank you for your comment as well 🙂

Abdulkareem says

Sir, i am a student of the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Nigerian (ICAN). I have been writing perfromance management and FR since 2012 when the syllabus was changed. Right now, they no longer test MCQ and SAQ which has made it difficult to score cheap marks. Please advice me as am almost fed up with the whole examination.

John Moffat says

I am sorry, but I really don’t know the syllabus or anything for ICAN. All we have is the lectures etc for the ACCA exams. I am sure that some of them will be relevant for your exams, but I can’t really say any more given my lack of knowledge on ICAN.

Abdulkareem says

Thank you sir. ICAN and ACCA use same syllabus except for Public Sector Accounting and Finance (PSAF), Advanced Taxation and Business Law.

Anyway, i have really gained a lot from open tuition. I have this courage that am going to pass the next diet since my enrolment on this forum. Thank you once again

adewale says

What does the iso contribution line depicts

John Moffat says

It is the line showing all combinations that give the same contribution (the contribution line).

As I explain in the lecture, all we need is the angle/slope/gradient of the line.

Bhagat says

Sir, instead of writing the algebra for number of units of S and E that produce maximum contribution, can I just pinpoint the number from point B since I know that is the point of maximum contribution? I got exactly S= 30 and E=5 from the graph that I drew.

John Moffat says

No.

As I do say in the lecture, the examiner expects you to solve the simultaneous equations and not to read the figure from the graph.

najaf says

perfect explanation!!

zameer says

Thank u john

fee says

This is probably a silly question, I’m possibly missing something … but why do we need to do the graph? Why can we not just use the equations to determine the optimum solution?

John Moffat says

No you can’t (and I do explain why not in the lecture).

If there are three (or more) constraints, then solving the equations for 2 of them at a time will not tell you whether or not they are inside or outside the other constraints.

In addition, the examiner specifically tests you on whether or not you understand the graph – sometimes you have been asked to draw the graph, and on other occasions you have been given the graph. In either case, simply solving equations would not be doing what was required.

fee says

Oh I see, thank you. And my apologies for asking something you answered in the lecture. So much information to try and retain!

adnan says

Hi,

If there is spare capacity/slack for materials or labour, than is the shadow price 0 as well?

John Moffat says

Yes it is.

adnan says

Thanks for the promt reply as always.

I wish theres spare capacity for everything, saves a lot of time 🙂