1. When we remove the opening inventory and transfer it to the debit side of income statement, do we do it in order to show that costs incurred in production unsold must decrease sales revenue ( credit side of income statement ) ? 2. Since closing inventory is transferred to the credit side of income statement, do we do it in order to decrease expenses incurred in full production with the aim to arrive at expenses incurred in production sold on debit side of income statement ?
Dear Mr Moffat, I’m sorry if this can be a silly question. However, I wonder if the owner takes money (cash) from the business, should we Cr Cash a/c and Dr Drawings a/c?
If they take cash, then yes – this is the entry (and is explained in the lecture on double entry bookkeeping).
sameersays
Hi, In topic inventory IAS 16 the lecturer has credited the inventory in income statement example 2. Inventory is an asset therefore it should be debited in income statement why it has been credited? Because on income statement debit side are for expenses and credit side is for income. Please explain.
Hi! Is there no need to create a cost of sales account first and close the same later to profit and loss account? Because sometimes if we close all the purchases to the income statement account, I loose track of the ending inventory if it is not given.
But I do balance it – a balance of 4,000 is left on the inventory account. (As I explain in earlier chapters, if there is only one figure on the account you do not need to start putting in totals and carrying forward a balance when you will still end up with just one figure.)
An invoice of $15,000 for energy costs relating to the quarter ended 30 November 20X7 was received on 2 December 20X7. Energy costs are included in administrative expenses. the year ends 31october 2007. Administrative expenses —325. the answer is: 15000 2/4=10000. i understood this but i didn’t understand this: ,,Administrative expenses (325 + 10) .why we add 10? I think because 15000 included we less 325 by 15 and than add 10.. pls.help me.. last year i get 48 marks and…:(
With regard to the invoice of 15,000, that was for the three months September, October, November. The year end is 31 October, and so at the year end they were owing for 2 months. If the invoice for 3 months was 15,000, then they must have been owing 2/3×15,000 = 10,000 for the two months. The invoice had not been recorded as the year end, and so there is an accrual of 10,000 and the expense in the Statement of profit or loss needs increasing by 10,000.
hi john, l saw this example and answer is this : Cost of sales Opening inventory 160 Purchases 1,140 Closing inventory (75) =1,225 add Depreciation (W2) 59= 1,284 in the example it said that Depreciation is treated as a cost of sales expense. why it addes and not less?
If they make their own goods, then depreciation of the machines and the factory are part of cost of sales – depreciation of other assets is not. If they do not make their own goods then depreciation is not part of cost of sales.
A company with an accounting date of 31 October carried out a physical check of inventory on 4 November 20X3, leading to an inventory value at cost at this date of $483,700. Between 1 November 20X3 and 4 November 20X3 the following transactions took place: 1 Goods costing $38,400 were received from suppliers. 2 Goods that had cost $14,800 were sold for $20,000. 3 A customer returned, in good condition, some goods which had been sold to him in October for $600 and which had cost $400. 4 The company returned goods that had cost $1,800 in October to the supplier, and received a credit note for them. What figure should appear in the company’s financial statements at 31 October 20X3 for closing inventory, based on this information? A $458,700 B $505,900 C $508,700 D $461,500
I don’t understand how the answer is D. i thought we must add purchases a less sales. .not add sales and less purchases
The reason is that we need to work backwards because we know the inventory on 4 Nov and we want to know what it was on 31 Oct. So…..if you purchased something on 2 Nov (for example) the inventory on 4 nov will be higher and the inv on 31 oct would be lower.
The inventory as at 4 November is 483700, so we have to work backwards to find out what it was on 31 October. 483700 – 38400 + 14800 – 400 + 1800 = 461500
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anar1903 says
Hello!
In Q2, you balanced 4000 debit with 4000 P&L credit. That’s alright
BUT,
why didn’t you balance the account After 6000 debited????
acca776 says
Why do we have to make a balance on the statement of profit and loss T account? Why not just detail as ‘Gross Profit’?
aseb says
Dear admin,
Each lecture I have watched so far, is well explained and easy to understand.
Thank you so much for this opportunity!
With respect,
Besa.
John Moffat says
Thank you very much for your comment 🙂
rafapak says
Dear Mr Moffat
1. When we remove the opening inventory and transfer it to the debit side of income statement, do we do it in order to show that costs incurred in production unsold must decrease sales revenue ( credit side of income statement ) ?
2. Since closing inventory is transferred to the credit side of income statement, do we do it in order to decrease expenses incurred in full production with the aim to arrive at expenses incurred in production sold on debit side of income statement ?
John Moffat says
We are trying to show the cost of the goods that were sold.
The goods sold are the opening inventory plus the purchases, less the closing inventory (because they were not sold in the period).
rafapak says
thanks!
John Moffat says
You are welcome 🙂
mandalp2 says
Hi,
In Example 2, in the Inventory A/C why do we put 4000 in the debit side?
Sammar says
Because inventory is an asset and when assets increase they are debited.
zukiegeneral says
Mr.john moffat your the best.. I need some lecture on cash flow statement,consolidation ,inventory how to do NRV .
John Moffat says
Thank you. There are lectures on everything in the syllabus for Paper F3.
Candy says
Hi Mr Moffat,
I am unsure with questions regarding sole trader taking drawings whether to Cr Inventory or to Cr Purchases.
It is not always clear, can you please explain the difference?
John Moffat says
The inventory is counted at the end of the period. The owner is not going to wait until it is counted, and then take some for himself 🙂
We always Cr purchases and Dr drawings.
Candy says
Many thanks Mr Moffat.
phuongltn says
Dear Mr Moffat,
I’m sorry if this can be a silly question. However, I wonder if the owner takes money (cash) from the business, should we Cr Cash a/c and Dr Drawings a/c?
Phuong
John Moffat says
If they take cash, then yes – this is the entry (and is explained in the lecture on double entry bookkeeping).
sameer says
Hi,
In topic inventory IAS 16 the lecturer has credited the inventory in income statement example 2. Inventory is an asset therefore it should be debited in income statement why it has been credited? Because on income statement debit side are for expenses and credit side is for income. Please explain.
John Moffat says
The inventory account records the asset, and this has been debited.
The income statement has been credited because closing inventory reduces the cost of goods sold. Assets do not appear in the income statement!
I suggest that you watch the lecture again.
Liza says
Hi! Is there no need to create a cost of sales account first and close the same later to profit and loss account? Because sometimes if we close all the purchases to the income statement account, I loose track of the ending inventory if it is not given.
Many thanks,
Liza
John Moffat says
There is no need, although in practice you can deal with it in many ways – there are no rules for the actual double entries.
The way in the lecture is the way for the exam (although there is very little testing of debits and credits in the exam).
Tyra says
In Q2: Could you please explain why you don’t balance the inventory account just because it appears in the balance sheet??
John Moffat says
But I do balance it – a balance of 4,000 is left on the inventory account.
(As I explain in earlier chapters, if there is only one figure on the account you do not need to start putting in totals and carrying forward a balance when you will still end up with just one figure.)
nita says
An invoice of $15,000 for energy costs relating to the quarter ended 30 November 20X7 was received on
2 December 20X7. Energy costs are included in administrative expenses.
the year ends 31october 2007. Administrative expenses —325. the answer is: 15000 2/4=10000. i understood this but i didn’t understand this: ,,Administrative expenses (325 + 10) .why we add 10? I think because 15000 included we less 325 by 15 and than add 10.. pls.help me.. last year i get 48 marks and…:(
nita says
sorry 15000 *2/3=10000
John Moffat says
I have no idea what the 325 and the 10 are!
With regard to the invoice of 15,000, that was for the three months September, October, November.
The year end is 31 October, and so at the year end they were owing for 2 months.
If the invoice for 3 months was 15,000, then they must have been owing 2/3×15,000 = 10,000 for the two months.
The invoice had not been recorded as the year end, and so there is an accrual of 10,000 and the expense in the Statement of profit or loss needs increasing by 10,000.
nita says
hi john, l saw this example and answer is this :
Cost of sales
Opening inventory 160
Purchases 1,140
Closing inventory (75)
=1,225
add Depreciation (W2) 59=
1,284
in the example it said that Depreciation is treated as a cost of sales expense. why it addes and not less?
John Moffat says
If depreciation is a cost of sales expense, then it makes the total cost of sales bigger!
nita says
thank you
mehmetsgashi says
John,
I’d like to know clearly, do we include depreciation expense in Cost of Sales or not?
Thank you very much!
John Moffat says
If they make their own goods, then depreciation of the machines and the factory are part of cost of sales – depreciation of other assets is not.
If they do not make their own goods then depreciation is not part of cost of sales.
hirrofic says
A company with an accounting date of 31 October carried out a physical check of inventory on 4
November 20X3, leading to an inventory value at cost at this date of $483,700.
Between 1 November 20X3 and 4 November 20X3 the following transactions took place:
1 Goods costing $38,400 were received from suppliers.
2 Goods that had cost $14,800 were sold for $20,000.
3 A customer returned, in good condition, some goods which had been sold to him in October for
$600 and which had cost $400.
4 The company returned goods that had cost $1,800 in October to the supplier, and received a
credit note for them.
What figure should appear in the company’s financial statements at 31 October 20X3 for closing
inventory, based on this information?
A $458,700
B $505,900
C $508,700
D $461,500
I don’t understand how the answer is D. i thought we must add purchases a less sales. .not add sales and less purchases
John Moffat says
The reason is that we need to work backwards because we know the inventory on 4 Nov and we want to know what it was on 31 Oct.
So…..if you purchased something on 2 Nov (for example) the inventory on 4 nov will be higher and the inv on 31 oct would be lower.
Silvia says
The answer is 505 900. No doubt. The physical check is finished on 4-th of November but the figure 483 700 is the closing inventory for the period.
John Moffat says
The answer is certainly not 505,900!
The answer is 461500.
The inventory as at 4 November is 483700, so we have to work backwards to find out what it was on 31 October.
483700 – 38400 + 14800 – 400 + 1800 = 461500
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oboloben says
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maher-begz says
which book are you using on your lectures
MikeLittle says
Course notes
John Moffat says
Our course notes. You can download them free of charge using the link just above the lecture.
maher-begz says
thank youu great lectures keep up the good work Sir!! God bless you.
nantume says
thx….so if i wanted to practice more specifically on inventory valuation wea wud i get more questions from??
siddiqui93 says
Dear admin you need correction on your lecture’s main heading
It should be Inventory and IAS2
John Moffat says
Thanks 🙂