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ACCA F9 Discounted Cash Flow Further Aspects, Replacement

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  1. Sun says

    August 14, 2018 at 11:51 pm

    Hi Sir,
    When we total up the PV of 4 timings in the example it, should we call it NPV? (Just to clarify as in this video it’s written in “PV”, not NPV). Thanks.

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    • John Moffat says

      August 15, 2018 at 12:28 am

      What you call things is really of little relevance!!

      The present value of a cash flow is the present value of an individual flow (or flows). The net present value if the sum total of the present values of all the cash flows.

      If you are still unsure then it may help you to watch the Paper F2 lectures on investment appraisal, because this is basic revision of Paper F2 馃檪

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      • Sun says

        August 15, 2018 at 2:25 pm

        Hi Sir,
        Thanks for replying. I knew it. Therefore for the sum up of PV in three timings= 72972=> shall we say it’s NPV?

      • John Moffat says

        August 15, 2018 at 7:08 pm

        No, because we are only looking at costs (we do not know the revenues and we do not need to know the revenues to make the decision).

        The 72,972 is the PV of the costs.

  2. loukasierides says

    March 4, 2018 at 7:39 pm

    Dear Sir,

    Your lectures as always are such a great help, thank you very much!

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    • John Moffat says

      March 5, 2018 at 10:07 am

      Thank you for your comment 馃檪

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  3. nomadd says

    August 9, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    Sir,
    NPV for every 2 years was $72972 and for 3years it was $87101.
    What I wanted to ask you is that why can’t we compare both those NPV value? Because after all we have we have discounted!!! Why it is necessary to find EAC to compare? Like what’s the science behind it?

    Thankyou.

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    • John Moffat says

      August 10, 2017 at 6:11 am

      Science has nothing to do with it 馃檪

      As I explain in the lecture, how can you compare paying out 72972 every 2 years with paying out 87101 every three years? It is not a valid comparison.

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      • nomadd says

        August 11, 2017 at 9:05 am

        Thankyou sir for making it clear!!!

      • John Moffat says

        August 11, 2017 at 4:57 pm

        You are welcome 馃檪

  4. devaoff says

    July 8, 2017 at 8:34 am

    Hello Sir,

    Could u pls explain the reason for not considering scrap value in the 2 yr replacement calculation ? The scrap value is considered while calculating 1 yr and 3 yr replacement.

    Thanks and Regards

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    • John Moffat says

      July 8, 2017 at 10:00 am

      But the scrap value certainly is considered!!! I suggest that you watch the lecture again, because I do bring it in 馃檪

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  5. Moloantoa says

    December 7, 2016 at 10:10 am

    mr John, why do we omit the scrap values on previous years but included the scrap for year 3 only? like when we calculate the present values for year 3?

    regards

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    • John Moffat says

      December 7, 2016 at 1:36 pm

      But you only scrap the machine once!!!

      You scrap it at the end of its life.

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  6. Mahrukh says

    March 23, 2016 at 3:20 pm

    Hi john,
    If not specifically asked to calculate EAC, can we do it this way,
    72972/2 = 36486/yr
    87101/3 = 29034/yr ?

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    • John Moffat says

      March 24, 2016 at 6:42 am

      No – it would not make any sense because of the difference in the timing of the flows.

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  7. trychandararith says

    February 17, 2016 at 4:24 am

    Hi sir,

    I’ve watched your lecture but I still don’t get the rationale behind adjusting nominal value in step one to NPV, then adjust it again using annuity. I mean in theory, isn’t it the same as we use the average nominal cost and adjust it using discount factor?

    Thanks.

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    • John Moffat says

      February 17, 2016 at 7:03 am

      I am sorry but I don’t know what you are suggesting.

      We are not adjusting anything – we are calculating the PV for one cycle (which is the equivalent outlay at time 0) and then given that the cycle will be repeated to infinity we are calculating the outlay per year that would be equivalent so that we are able to compare the different replacement cycles.
      I can only suggest that you watch the lecture again.

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  8. Sali says

    November 5, 2015 at 2:46 pm

    Hi Mr. Moffat,

    I did not get the difference between the NPV ($72.972) and the EAC ($44.878) replacing the machine every 2 years for ever.

    And what figure guide us to the decision is comparing the NPV of $72.972 and $87.101 or the EAC of $44.878 and $38.152.

    Thanks in advance Sir.

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    • John Moffat says

      November 5, 2015 at 10:13 pm

      I am afraid that you are going to have to watch the lecture again, because I do explain this in the lecture.

      We can only compare the EAC’s when it is a replacement decision – it is not logical to try and compare an NPV that repeats every 2 years with one that repeats every 3 years.

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      • Sali says

        November 6, 2015 at 10:14 am

        Thanks Sir. ?

      • John Moffat says

        November 6, 2015 at 5:44 pm

        You are welcome 馃檪

  9. acca2050 says

    May 13, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    Can we do 1st year replacement and see whats the results, then try and 2nd and 3rd, this we choose the best?

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    • John Moffat says

      May 13, 2014 at 12:39 pm

      Of course. That is what I do in the lecture – it doesn’t matter which order you do them in!

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  10. nkmile64 says

    July 21, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    A very good lecture indeed!

    I understand that you mentioned there’s still another method of dealing with asset replacement in mutually exclusive projects with unequal lives. Would that be the replacement chain method using the shortest common multiple of the alternatives’ lifes? And if so, is it included in the Dec 2013 Syllabus or there’s no point bothering with it?

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    • John Moffat says

      July 21, 2013 at 5:39 pm

      You can certainly do it that way and you will get full marks. However the examiner has never required you specifically to do it that way, whereas he has in the past specifically asked you to calculate the equivalent annual cost. So there is not really any point in learning two ways.

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      • nkmile64 says

        July 21, 2013 at 5:40 pm

        Understood!
        Thanks John

  11. osuja says

    June 28, 2013 at 11:36 pm

    Sir, some text books solved the problem without using the maintenance cost in year one, and i don’t know if that is correct and beside there was no assumption stated . Please kindly expatiate on this issue

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    • John Moffat says

      June 29, 2013 at 12:15 pm

      I think you might be referring to an example in the Kaplan book. If you are then it specifically says that the maintenance is paid in the following year.
      There is no specific issue involved – as always with operating cash flows, you assume that the first years cost is payable in one years time i.e. at time 1, unless you are told differently.

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      • osuja says

        July 4, 2013 at 11:42 pm

        Thank u Prof. . U are a wonderful teacher
        i wish u were the teacher for all the courses ,
        cos your passion for teaching makes us to understand the course
        the more.

  12. jeweltrinidad says

    November 7, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    john always makes me understand by the way he lectures

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  13. Rana Mateen says

    September 24, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    jhonmoffat always great

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  14. faizan1185 says

    March 11, 2012 at 4:59 am

    ok sir….thanks for taking time to reply……..

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  15. faizan1185 says

    March 10, 2012 at 7:41 am

    sir.in KAPLAN BOOK.. they say that and i quote…”note that the asset is only maintained at the year end if it isto be kept for a further year i.e ther are no maintaince cost in the year of replacement…”… but u have included running cost in year of disposal or scrap….plese guide me..im bit confused……………………reply promptly…..i will be obliged

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    • John Moffat says

      March 10, 2012 at 3:18 pm

      @faizan1185, Your quote is not a general rule – it is just part of that particular question.

      You will always have running costs in the year of replacement (otherwise the machine will not be working in the final year!) and you will usually also have maintenance costs in the final year as well.

      Think about a car – if you replace it at the end of a year then you will still have to pay for running it during that year and for repairing (maintenance) during that year!

      Always assume this unless the question says differently. The question you are referring to in Kaplan specifically tells you to do differently (although it is unusual for it to say that) and so you do what you are told.

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  16. shem436 says

    March 6, 2012 at 10:40 am

    very helpful. Thank you opentuition.

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  17. adilali1990 says

    February 21, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    great lecture i love teachers of opentuition

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