Thank you a million for these great lectures, I really appreciate it from my heart.If you were here in Jamaica I would have certainly find you and give you a big hug…Your lectures are more than helpful as I didn’t understand Financial Management. Thank you again.
What about the financial lease payment? is it included in the financial gearing or it will be included in the fixed costs for operations like operating lease.
Sir, Why is that in the calculation of operating gear we only taking variable cost?( Sales – variable cost (contribution)) Why we are not taking fixed cost?
Because as I explain with the illustration, it is the level of fixed costs relative to the variable costs (and therefore the contribution) that is causing the risk.
Yes, but it is earnings that give rise to dividends. Either a company has low retention and therefore pays high dividends but there will be little growth in dividends; or, alternatively, a company will have high retention and therefore pay lower dividends but there will be growth in dividends. (This is explained and illustrated in Chapter 17 of our free lecture notes).
That is why, when comparing companies, that looking at the dividends does not mean much (because they might have different dividend policies) and therefore why PE’s are more useful in practice.
My problem is you said to the Financial Management Accountant, preference shares are just like any other debt because fixed dividend is paid on it which is just like interest. Why then when calculating Interest Yied, the preference share was not involved and in calculating the other ratios like EPS, P/E etc, it was also left out from equity (shares)? I we then not totally ignoring it now?
Because interest yield is specifically a measure used for ‘proper’ debt. Also for EPS etc we are looking at the earnings available for equity (ordinary) shares, and this is after subtracting the preference dividend.
Hello Sir John, thank u for the wonderful lectures. If investors are prepared to pay more in the hope that the company does better and eventually have more earnings in future, won’t the MV of shares not go up as well? So, in a sense the PE will not reduce so much? Unless, rate of increase of earnings is much more than rate of increase of MV. So, will it be correct if we compare PE for a long period of time, say for 5 years instead of only 2 years.
Please I am a bit confused. Is that there won’t be any solution for Example 3 as I came across a question on operating gearing in a past question paper.
Hi sir I’ve a question A company can maximise its value by adopting a capital structure that minimises it’s weighted average cost of capital .could you please explain whether or not such an optimal capital structure exists for a company. Many thx
In practice yes – because the WACC stands to change as the gearing changes.
In theory (according to Modigliani and Miller) then without tax the WACC will not change and so there is no such thing as optimal gearing; but with tax then there is an optimal – they should be as highly geared as possible because this will reduce the WACC. I do explain and illustrate this in the lectures.
(M&M may not work perfectly in practice because of the various assumptions they made, which do not all hold true because things don’t work perfectly in real life)
petriep says
Hi John,
Thank you a million for these great lectures, I really appreciate it from my heart.If you were here in Jamaica I would have certainly find you and give you a big hug…Your lectures are more than helpful as I didn’t understand Financial Management. Thank you again.
John Moffat says
Thank you very much for your comment 🙂
petriep says
Pleasure Sir. Blessings.
njivan28 says
I love you John, i like your example whe when giving exapmle on real life example,your UK example is LIT.Thank you so much sir,blessings.
John Moffat says
Thank you for the comment 🙂
loukasierides says
Dear Sir,
Thank you for these great lectures on Business Finance. They are extremely helpful.
John Moffat says
You are welcome, and thank you for your comment 🙂
barre44 says
Sir,
Thanks for your good lecture as always.
Does interest payment being accounted for financial gearing also be included in fixed costs for calculating the operating gearing.
If I am not wrong fixed cost in the statement of profit or loss include
1. lease payment
2. Rents
3. Debt interest
4. Fixed salaries
and so on
John Moffat says
Interest payments are not included in operational gearing. It is fixed costs incurred in operations – eg rent
barre44 says
Thank you
What about the financial lease payment? is it included in the financial gearing or it will be included in the fixed costs for operations like operating lease.
John Moffat says
If it were an operating lease (i.e. effectively renting) then it would be included in operating gearing.
If it were a finance lease (but this is not likely in the exam) then it would be treated instead as part of the financial gearing.
barre44 says
Thanks Sir, you are perfect and usual!
John Moffat says
You are welcome 🙂
nomadd says
Sir,
Why is that in the calculation of operating gear we only taking variable cost?( Sales – variable cost (contribution))
Why we are not taking fixed cost?
John Moffat says
Because as I explain with the illustration, it is the level of fixed costs relative to the variable costs (and therefore the contribution) that is causing the risk.
nomadd says
Thanks for making it clear again!
Between I really liked the example that you mentioned, it really made the concept so easy.
hemraj123 says
Dear Sir,
In the calculation of P/E ratio, we assume that it will take 16 years for the investor to get back his investment based on current earnings.
But isn’t certain part of the earnings retained? Wont the investors only receive dividends?
Thanks
John Moffat says
Yes, but it is earnings that give rise to dividends. Either a company has low retention and therefore pays high dividends but there will be little growth in dividends; or, alternatively, a company will have high retention and therefore pay lower dividends but there will be growth in dividends. (This is explained and illustrated in Chapter 17 of our free lecture notes).
That is why, when comparing companies, that looking at the dividends does not mean much (because they might have different dividend policies) and therefore why PE’s are more useful in practice.
khanhhoangvu says
Dear Sir,
Could you please show out the meanings / the logics of each ratio because I still didn’t get its meanings.
Thank you very much.
John Moffat says
Maybe watching the relevant F3 lectures will help you, because most of the ratios are revision from Paper F3.
acca9 says
Really clear lecture. Thanks for all!
Ernest says
Hi Sir John,
That was a great lecture as always.
My problem is you said to the Financial Management Accountant, preference shares are just like any other debt because fixed dividend is paid on it which is just like interest. Why then when calculating Interest Yied, the preference share was not involved and in calculating the other ratios like EPS, P/E etc, it was also left out from equity (shares)? I we then not totally ignoring it now?
John Moffat says
Because interest yield is specifically a measure used for ‘proper’ debt.
Also for EPS etc we are looking at the earnings available for equity (ordinary) shares, and this is after subtracting the preference dividend.
Ernest says
So the only place we include them is when calculating gearing ratios?
John Moffat says
Precisely (for the reasons I wrote above).
Ernest says
Thank you.
John Moffat says
You are welcome 🙂
nzeadall says
Hello Sir John, thank u for the wonderful lectures. If investors are prepared to pay more in the hope that the company does better and eventually have more earnings in future, won’t the MV of shares not go up as well? So, in a sense the PE will not reduce so much? Unless, rate of increase of earnings is much more than rate of increase of MV. So, will it be correct if we compare PE for a long period of time, say for 5 years instead of only 2 years.
John Moffat says
You are correct in saying that the MV will go up if investors expect that the company will do better in the future.
However the PE’s that are quoted in the newspapers (and used in the exams) only look at the current earnings and current share price.
chidinma89 says
Hello John,
Please I am a bit confused. Is that there won’t be any solution for Example 3 as I came across a question on operating gearing in a past question paper.
John Moffat says
There is a solution!
Solutions to all of the examples are in the free lecture notes – look at the contents page.
sehrish says
Hi Sir,
Thanks for making things so easy for me. here’s a point, I am bit confused on:
The P/E Ratio above, you said it’s 83/5.2=15.96
but shouldn’t it be 0.83/5.2= 0.15 times or 15.96% or it should always be in percentage?
Many Thanks!
John Moffat says
It is not a % – it is always just a number.
The market value is 15.96 time the earnings.
(Price is 83c; EPS is 5.2c. So PE is 15.96.)
sehrish says
Oh yes got it.
Many thanks John!
moizakber says
Can we say that Dividend yield and interest yield is the cost of equity and cost of debt respectively?
Angel says
Hi sir I’ve a question
A company can maximise its value by adopting a capital structure that minimises it’s weighted average cost of capital .could you please explain whether or not such an optimal capital structure exists for a company.
Many thx
John Moffat says
In practice yes – because the WACC stands to change as the gearing changes.
In theory (according to Modigliani and Miller) then without tax the WACC will not change and so there is no such thing as optimal gearing; but with tax then there is an optimal – they should be as highly geared as possible because this will reduce the WACC. I do explain and illustrate this in the lectures.
(M&M may not work perfectly in practice because of the various assumptions they made, which do not all hold true because things don’t work perfectly in real life)
Angel says
Thanks a lot sir
John Moffat says
You are welcome 🙂