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    • Not only is it not in the syllabus, it no longer exists

      The IAS has been withdrawn and replaced by IFRS 15

      However, the methodology of calculating stage reached and attributable profits are potentially still relevant for the purposes of IFRS 15 so I have left the lecture and the course notes as they were before the issuance of the new IFRS

  4. Hi Tutor,

    As IAS 11 is no longer in the syllabus, can we escape this lecture and focus on the lecture of IFRS 15 which is the combination of IAS 11 and IAS 18 ? or they are complementary lectures ?

    Thanks.
    Daniel.

    • They’re more complementary so I wouldn’t ignore the chapter where I have a number of examples each illustrating different issues in the problem of calculating an appropriate figure for revenue recognition based on stage reached of construction contracts

      No, don’t ignore this chapter / lecture

  5. Hi Mike,

    I will appreciate if you could help me with the accounting treatment.

    1- Suppose contract price is $100 Million and the cost is $50 Million, if 10% of the work is completed by the 1st yr end, and it isn’t sufficient to be able to predict the ultimate outcome.
    Thus, in year 1 revenue and the cost we recognize will be $ 10million right so that the profit recognized becomes 0?

    2- what if we predict loss when the work completed isn’t sufficient enough to be able to predict the outcome, do we recognize the loss in such case?

  6. Not as a replica. They DO illustrate a method of computing stage reached and calculation of appropriate revenue and costs but in the course notes there is a separate chapter on IFRS 15 (from memory)

    • That’s correct – it’s no longer in the syllabus. The same as IAS 18 Revenue

      Both have been replaced by IFRS 15

      But the calculations shown in the notes are still viable and potentially still the subject of an exam question

  9. Dear Mike

    I think you will find that it actually was the English boring machine that was buried somewhere in the middle of the tunnel. The French one on the other hand, was placed on eBay!

    For the record, that was best 39,999 I ever spent. It was a shame that the Royal Mail thought it was too big for it to be delivered through the door though! 馃檪

    • Yes, it has been pointed out to me earlier that it was the English one that was stripped of all moveable parts and then abandoned although I didn’t know that the French one was put up for sale on ebay (if that’s true)

      And I know that it’s not true that you picked it up for 39,999 – you’re pulling my chain! You must have paid much more than that 馃檪

      • Well Mike it certainly appeared like I was going to pay more for it when no-good hoaxers started bidding on it just for fun. Thankfully eBay took action and suspended those time-wasters and allowed us serious bidders to get on with it.

        So yes, it is sitting proudly on my mantelpiece as we speak! But worry not, the item was fully depreciated by the Eurotunnel, and I was just about to suggest that they obtained full capital gains relief for it, until I realised that the whole operation was beyond the scope of corporation tax……being that they were based for tax and other purposes underseas and all that! 馃檪

      • I suppose that it’s on your mantle piece so that it’s handy for when you need to ream out the chimney stack. Being French it is presumably familiar with the French exclamation “Soot alors!”

  10. Good evening Mike, I am
    Struggling as to why we add the 拢400K + 拢350K of costs together and multiply them by the competition amount, 60%. Is this because this would result in a loss and the estimated costs in total forecast a profit?

    I have looked through my workings and its period
    Specific 100% PLUS the contract percentage of the remaining costs…. My only logic is that it’s because that way would create a loss?

    Appreciate your help and
    guidance as always!

    Regards, Chris.

    • On the previous page in the notes – towards the top I seem to remember – it says that where a loss is forecast, this should be recognised in full.

      So, if you see that a loss is forecast overall, put the full loss figure in as line 3 in working 1

      You already have line 1, revenue, so that now means that you can put in “costs recognised” as the balancing figure

      OK?

    • Year 2 there’s a forecast loss to be recognised so, as I said in the lecture, where a loss is to be recognised, the second figure to put into working 1 is the loss. The balancing figure then is the figure for costs to be recognised

      Does that do it for you?

      If not, post again

    • You’re almost correct! IAS 11 no longer exists so that explains why it’s excluded from the study guide / syllabus. The same comment applies to IAS 18

      But there is an addition to the syllabus in the form of IFRS 15 and that is a replacement of both IAS 11 and IAS 18

      So you still should know how to calculate profits from construction contracts. IFRS 15 now identifies how these profits are to be allocated across the life of the contract, particularly where there is a continuing service agreement element within the contract

      Ok?

  13. Hello all,

    I am a bit stuck with an example from BPP revision kit – question 52 (preparation question: contract). The year start on Jan 1 and end on Dec 31. Most of the contracts in this question start during the year. I thought that revenue and costs should be calculated with the percentage of completion, but also the number of months. They say in the question that profit accrues evenly over the contract.

    E.g. revenue for a contract of 120,000 $ started on July 01 and with completion percentage of 45 % would be: 120,000 $ x 45 % x 6 month

    However, they take the full revenue in the solution: 120,000 $ x 45 %.

    What is correct and why should we take the full revenue if the contract started mid-year?

    Thanks,

    Dimitri

    • It’s 45% complete – it’s not 45% complete for half a year

      How can you time apportion 45% complete? That’s illogical

      If you start a project on 1 October and finish it on 31 December, does that mean you should time apportion it by multiplying by 3 months / 12 months?

  14. https://www.answers.com/Q/What_happened_to_the_boring_machines_used_to_build_the_Chunnel

    What happened to the boring machines used to build the Chunnel?
    In late 1990, the service tunnel was almost complete. The moles had approached each other closer to the British end. France, however, didn’t gloat in its accomplishments. Both countries had come together for a common good. This isn’t to say that some friendly competition hadn’t fueled the tunnel’s construction. When the two tunnel boring machines were about 50 meters from each other, the English moles drove off-line to the right into the narrow gap between the service tunnel and the running tunnel south (Fetherston, p. 342). The British machine stopped once it lay parallel and head to tail with the French machine. The English mole was stripped of anything salvageable. It was then entombed within concrete. The French tunneling machine than was hollowed out. Its outer shell would serve as the tunnel lining. Two workers, one from each side, were chosen at random to be the first to cross over from their respective tunnels and into the other. On December 1, 1990, British construction worker Graham Fagg and his French counterpart, Philippe Cozette, each with an air spade, drilled through the final piece of rock which stood between them (See Appendix C). Once the hole grew big enough, Cozette poked his head through to a frenzy of photographers, reporters, and a small handful of privileged spectators. Fagg repeated Cozette’s actions to the French side. News soon spread across the world. The United Kingdom and France were now linked for the first time in 8,000 years (Guterl, p. 25). This gala event had come at the objection of TML. They felt as though the tunnel was already over budget, and the last thing Eurotunnel needed to do was celebrate. This single event, however, did appease skeptical investors in the project.

    I just wanted to find out what happened to the machines lol! This is what i found on the web.

    • !!!!!

      Being English, I prefer the story that says the French machine was buried!

      I still don’t understand why the British machine could not come back in line and exit into France (or even dig a U turn and come back to England)

  15. Dear Sir,

    I have a small confusion about when to start charging the depreciation? Its a June 2013 Dipifr question:

    The question says:
    Construction work commenced on 1 November 2012. The factory was completed on 31 May 2013 and production began on 1 August 2013. The overall useful life of the factory building was estimated at 40 years from the date of completion. Year ends on 30 Sept 2013.
    And the Total depreciable amount came out to be $ 10,000

    In the solutions, they have charged it for 4 months ( I think its 1st June to 30 Sept 2013)

    But shouldn’t it be charged when the ‘production’ has begun i.e from 1st August 2013 (means 2 months?). Doesnt it mean it was ready for use from 1st August 2013?

    Regards,
    Swati

    • I presume the cost of the factory was $1,200,000 – you never said!

      From the information you have given I can understand why you would wish to depreciate for only 2 months. That COULD be acceptable if you were to charge 2 months out of a remaining useful life of 39 years 10 months

      The factory is complete as at the end of May and from that time it has “a useful life of 40 years”. The question does NOT say that it has “a useful productive life of 40 years”

      Nasty trick 馃檨

      • Ahh okay.. i understood.. Thanks!

        And by writing ‘Total depreciable amount came out to be $ 10,000’, i meant that the total factory cost worked out to be 10,000 on which depreciation was charged in the solutions.. Well, i understood how they got this ‘10,000’ 馃檪

        So, thanks once again!

  16. Dear sir,
    I’m finding it difficult to watch F7 lectures on my tablet, it is displaying Error loading skin: Error loading file for the past 2 days. I’ve watched open tuition lectures from my tablet in the past. So I don’t know what’s happen now. Can you please help me out

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