It is the same logic but instead of an iso-contribution line you have a total cost line and you move it as close to the origin as possible in order to get a minimum total cost.
When the constraints are less than are equal to (as is usually the case) then the slack is any unused amount of the limited resource. When the constraints are greater than or equal to, then the surplus is the extra being used over and above the constraint.
Any number. You can solve the simultaneous equations any way you like – I do it the way that I was taught at school, but if you were taught another way then that is fine – the final answer will be the same.
thank you very much for your lectures it helps a lot can you briefly explain why you used the material 2s+4e< 80 to calculate 2.5 rather than labour 5s+6e<180. I was thinking maybe it's a better rounding off of figure
2s+4e=80 5s+6e=180 5s+10e=200 why 2.5 & why material instead of labour 0+4e=20/4 e=5
As I say in the lecture, it does not matter how you solve the simultaneous equations – whichever method you use will end up with the same final answer.
If there is no slack then the amount we are prepared to pay is the normal cost per unit plus the shadow cost (which is what I have shown in the lecture for materials and labour which have no slack).
(If there is slack then we would not pay anything because having more would not allow us to produce more of the products)
Lovely lecture as usual sir! However, my question is… How do you reach maximum demand in this situation seeing that we are not meeting demand for product E. Is there a way of doing it while maintaining or increasing contribution? Thanks 馃檪
We are not trying to meet the maximum demand, we are trying to get the maximum contribution possible (without producing more than we can sell). It turns out that maximum contribution in this question is achieved by producing fewer of E (and therefore using resources to produce some of S). If we decided to produce maximum E’s, we would end up producing fewer S’s (it would be a point C on my graph) and the total contribution would be lower.
Hello sir john , I have a request. could you please provide us additional set of question for f5 revision mock exams(Section 1) because i have done many time that questions.. It’s my humble request if you can arrange another revision mock exam for f5 . thanks
In future please ask this sort of question in the Ask the Tutor Forum, and not as a comment on a lecture.
There are already well over 100 question in the bank of questions that the test is drawn from. The test selects 20 questions at random and so you should not be getting the same questions each time – if you are then try clearing the cache on your browser.
There is no intention to increase the size of the bank at the moment.
I assume you have a Revision Kit from one of the ACCA approved publishers (if not then you should buy one) and they contain plenty more questions to practice on.
Can you please tell me how there is a shadow price for labour, and materials has slack. In both cases, E < demand. At 4.75 and 5.625. Demand is 10. I would have thought both had a shadow price?
I am following very closely, but it just does not make sense to me. Thank you in advance.
For there to be no slack for the demand, it would mean the the optimal mix would have been at corner C (if there is no slack, then the optimum must be at a corner where demand is one of the lines). (That would only happen if the contribution line was different).
Then you would carry on the same way as usual and calculated how the optimal mix would change the demand was 1 unit more. The shadow cost would be the extra contribution generate.
please if i guess a different value from what you guessed will i still get the final answer including slack and the shadow price. and if not, what is the solution.
If you are meaning guessing a contribution in order to be able to draw the contribution line, then it won,t affect anything else at all. All we need is the angle/slope of the line and that will be the same whatever value of contribution you choose. I think it will be helpful for you to watch the lecture again.
Yes sir i watch the lecture full,but there is one test that is give at the end of notes,this creating problem for me , how the answer is 6.7 ,you add simply shadow price and cost of material Z , but why you add only these two values.whats the reason behind this. (page 37 on notes )Thank you
The shadow price is the most extra that we would be prepared to pay for one extra unit of the limited resource. The current price is $3 per kg.. The most extra we are prepared to pay is $3.70 per kg.. Therefore the most in total we are prepared to pay is $6.70 per kg..
I do actually stress this in the lecture and explain why.
The shadow price is the most extra that you would be prepared to pay for one extra unit of the limited resource. It is calculated by taking one extra unit and calculating the extra contribution that would be earned. If there is slack demand, it means that we are already producing less than the limit, so even if the limit on demand was increase by 1 to 11, we couldn’t produce any more and therefore could not make any more contribution.
Hi, Im new and failing to view and listen to any F5 lecture instead F7 consolidation is coming on when i click on any F5 topic. What should i do? Thanks
This lecture keeps stopping after 7 mins and will not play any further. I have watched the previous lectures with no issues. I have updated my flash player and cleared the history/cache etc and still stops at 7 mins – any ideas on what else I need to do – to be able to watch the lectures.
The problem is most likely to do with your internet connection. Have a look at the technical support page and if that does not help then ask the question there and admin will try and help you.
About shadow pricing, How the extra contribution is regarded wholly to the cost? If the contribution is in whole becoming the cost, there is no point to stretch the additional constraint. Because the benefit all becomes the cost.
What you say is true. That is why the shadow price is the most extra we are prepared to pay for one extra unit of the limited resource. So…..provided we can get it for less then it is worth having (because the total contribution will increase).
darebrake says
Thank you sir for nice lecture if the question about cost minimisation rather than maximise how we deal it plz explain it
John Moffat says
It is the same logic but instead of an iso-contribution line you have a total cost line and you move it as close to the origin as possible in order to get a minimum total cost.
dlobecam1 says
Hi Tutor,
In the lecture you explained the slack and not the surplus. What is this please ?
Thanks
Daniel.
John Moffat says
When the constraints are less than are equal to (as is usually the case) then the slack is any unused amount of the limited resource.
When the constraints are greater than or equal to, then the surplus is the extra being used over and above the constraint.
Mike says
how can we produce 30.5 and 4.75 units?
Mike says
answer in the video thank you
anny786 says
Hi John,
Brilliant lecture!
Quick question, reference shadow price lecture example 3, do we always times by 2.5?
Or does that vary we can pick any number?
John Moffat says
Any number. You can solve the simultaneous equations any way you like – I do it the way that I was taught at school, but if you were taught another way then that is fine – the final answer will be the same.
natty2 says
thank you very much for your lectures it helps a lot
can you briefly explain why you used the material 2s+4e< 80 to calculate 2.5 rather than labour 5s+6e<180. I was thinking maybe it's a better rounding off of figure
2s+4e=80
5s+6e=180
5s+10e=200 why 2.5 & why material instead of labour
0+4e=20/4
e=5
John Moffat says
As I say in the lecture, it does not matter how you solve the simultaneous equations – whichever method you use will end up with the same final answer.
maadhy says
what if there were no slack for demand. how much would we be willing to pay for it?
John Moffat says
If there is no slack then the amount we are prepared to pay is the normal cost per unit plus the shadow cost (which is what I have shown in the lecture for materials and labour which have no slack).
(If there is slack then we would not pay anything because having more would not allow us to produce more of the products)
innocent9453 says
Lovely lecture as usual sir! However, my question is… How do you reach maximum demand in this situation seeing that we are not meeting demand for product E. Is there a way of doing it while maintaining or increasing contribution? Thanks 馃檪
John Moffat says
I am not quite sure I understand you.
We are not trying to meet the maximum demand, we are trying to get the maximum contribution possible (without producing more than we can sell). It turns out that maximum contribution in this question is achieved by producing fewer of E (and therefore using resources to produce some of S). If we decided to produce maximum E’s, we would end up producing fewer S’s (it would be a point C on my graph) and the total contribution would be lower.
innocent9453 says
Thanks John, couldn’t have explain it any better sir and looking at the graph helped!! Cheers 馃檪
John Moffat says
Thank you 馃檪
chughtai20 says
Hello ! The page for the online MCQ test for this chapter doesn’t exist. Any guidance on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you !
John Moffat says
I will have it checked and corrected – thank you for letting us know.
opentuition_team says
it should be OK now 馃檪
chughtai20 says
Thank you very much !
John Moffat says
You are welcome 馃檪
wasiq8989 says
Hello sir john ,
I have a request. could you please provide us additional set of question for f5 revision mock exams(Section 1) because i have done many time that questions.. It’s my humble request if you can arrange another revision mock exam for f5 . thanks
John Moffat says
In future please ask this sort of question in the Ask the Tutor Forum, and not as a comment on a lecture.
There are already well over 100 question in the bank of questions that the test is drawn from. The test selects 20 questions at random and so you should not be getting the same questions each time – if you are then try clearing the cache on your browser.
There is no intention to increase the size of the bank at the moment.
I assume you have a Revision Kit from one of the ACCA approved publishers (if not then you should buy one) and they contain plenty more questions to practice on.
gonko says
Can you please tell me how there is a shadow price for labour, and materials has slack. In both cases, E < demand. At 4.75 and 5.625. Demand is 10.
I would have thought both had a shadow price?
I am following very closely, but it just does not make sense to me. Thank you in advance.
John Moffat says
Materials does not have slack (I actually write ‘no slack’ against it on the screen!).
Labour and materials both have a shadow price and both shadow prices are calculated in the lecture.
It is only with the demand that there is slack.
Varun says
my question is, what if there were no slack for the demand for executive chairs how would we compute for the shadow price ?
thanks 馃檪
John Moffat says
For there to be no slack for the demand, it would mean the the optimal mix would have been at corner C (if there is no slack, then the optimum must be at a corner where demand is one of the lines). (That would only happen if the contribution line was different).
Then you would carry on the same way as usual and calculated how the optimal mix would change the demand was 1 unit more. The shadow cost would be the extra contribution generate.
tirmidhy01 says
good day Sir,
please if i guess a different value from what you guessed will i still get the final answer including slack and the shadow price. and if not, what is the solution.
John Moffat says
If you are meaning guessing a contribution in order to be able to draw the contribution line, then it won,t affect anything else at all. All we need is the angle/slope of the line and that will be the same whatever value of contribution you choose.
I think it will be helpful for you to watch the lecture again.
aliimranacca007 says
dear sir can you solve for me test which is give at the end of the lecture notes
John Moffat says
The answers are at the end of the lecture notes – see the contents page 馃檪
aliimranacca007 says
sir i know answer is at the end can you give me logic how this answer com .Thank You
John Moffat says
You will have to tell me which question you want me to solve!
(I assume that you have watched the lectures in full?)
aliimranacca007 says
Yes sir i watch the lecture full,but there is one test that is give at the end of notes,this creating problem for me , how the answer is 6.7 ,you add simply shadow price and cost of material Z , but why you add only these two values.whats the reason behind this. (page 37 on notes )Thank you
John Moffat says
The shadow price is the most extra that we would be prepared to pay for one extra unit of the limited resource.
The current price is $3 per kg.. The most extra we are prepared to pay is $3.70 per kg..
Therefore the most in total we are prepared to pay is $6.70 per kg..
I do actually stress this in the lecture and explain why.
Sun says
hi .May i know why the shadow price for demand is 0.(there is a slack demand)
John Moffat says
The shadow price is the most extra that you would be prepared to pay for one extra unit of the limited resource.
It is calculated by taking one extra unit and calculating the extra contribution that would be earned.
If there is slack demand, it means that we are already producing less than the limit, so even if the limit on demand was increase by 1 to 11, we couldn’t produce any more and therefore could not make any more contribution.
Yosef says
Hi has anyone seen bpp work book pg. 140 could they explain how the 10/4 comes in the answer trying to explain MC=MR
Thanks allot your a star
John Moffat says
This question is about pricing, so why are you posting it as a comment on a lecture on linear programming?
Ask in one of the forums and not here.
Nkosinathi says
Hi
In this lecture. The lecturer speak out the link to access the article. Will you please help me to get to the link access the article?
Thank you
John Moffat says
I can’t remember the link now, but if you go to the ACCA website you can find a list of all the Paper F5 articles with links to them.
Nkosinathi says
Thank you Sir!
Felicity says
Understood thanks a lot Sir.This question came in June 2014 wish i had known about opentuition then but nonetheless thank you.
sunday says
Thanks alot
Abraham says
Hi, Im new and failing to view and listen to any F5 lecture instead F7 consolidation is coming on when i click on any F5 topic. What should i do? Thanks
John Moffat says
Try clearing the cache in your browser. Otherwise try using a different browser such as Google Chrome.
The lectures are all working fine.
swiftshell says
This lecture keeps stopping after 7 mins and will not play any further. I have watched the previous lectures with no issues.
I have updated my flash player and cleared the history/cache etc and still stops at 7 mins – any ideas on what else I need to do – to be able to watch the lectures.
Thanks
Shelley
John Moffat says
The problem is most likely to do with your internet connection.
Have a look at the technical support page and if that does not help then ask the question there and admin will try and help you.
lukayl says
Hi Sir,
About shadow pricing, How the extra contribution is regarded wholly to the cost? If the contribution is in whole becoming the cost, there is no point to stretch the additional constraint. Because the benefit all becomes the cost.
John Moffat says
What you say is true.
That is why the shadow price is the most extra we are prepared to pay for one extra unit of the limited resource.
So…..provided we can get it for less then it is worth having (because the total contribution will increase).
lukayl says
Thank you! I overlooked “Most willing to pay”. Now I understand.