Hello Mr Moffat, I just realised that the overhead cost per unit for product A is supposed to be $8.90(78040/20000). hence, there will be a loss os $(3.90)
Good day Sir. I have a question why are we treating Machining cost differently from the rest of the cost pools? Why are we firstly calculating total machine hours for each product rather than just adding up all machine hour per unit of each product?
We find the total of each activity – the total of all the set-ups; the total of all the machine hours, etc.. Do watch the lecture again because I do explain this and stress how important it is to watch out for it.
hi one question…in example 1 above calculating using abc, the receiving overhead is calculated as 30000/22 = 1363.636 in the above answer it was rounded off to 1364 per delivery..this makes the total amount of abc (a=13640 b=13640 c=2728) when calculated to be 30008.. This kind of throws me off…Is it ok to apportion it as 10/22 x 30000 to get a more precise figure or should it be done as shown? thank you…
But as I explain in the lecture, when you later calculate the overheads per unit (which is the ultimate aim), then the rounding makes no difference at all because we calculated the cost per unit to the nearest cent.
awwwww i must have missed that as I was trying to complete the question on my own the second time around….it just seemed easier to do it the other way as i dont want to get confused along the way when doing other questions..after alla one cent does make a difference in accounting ..lol…il go over that lecture again..thanks much…
Sir, what does machining means ? Like I understand the terms like set up cost … receivables… Despatch. But what does machining means? Why it’s coming under the category of overhead?
There is no one way. If you watch the free lectures on pricing then I work through the various things they will consider, and the various techniques they may use.
Thank you sir. Indeed ABC is more time consuming when dealing with cost drivers. Separate cost driver rate (OAR) calculated for each activity. Does this make ABC a much more complex method?
One question, if I may, regarding possible cost drivers. I am trying to solve a problem which mentions : “Distribution costs (all indirect) amount to X$ and are assigned to products by means of the production cost.” Can the production cost be used as a cost driver for the allocation of the distribution costs? I, for instance, considered as cost driver, for this particular allocation, the production – the level of activity for each product. Please let me know your thoughts regarding this.
If a question says that the production cost is to be used, then you must use the production cost.
If you are asking whether it is sensible in ‘real-life’, then it depends. There are no rules and it is whatever management feel is the most sensible. The reason cost might be regarded as better than units, is that some products may be bigger than others and therefore cost more to deliver. It is likely that bigger units cost more to produce.
Regarding machining costs: Labour hours for B should be 1 hour times 25, 000 units = 25,000 hours and total (A+B+C) 67,000 instead of 94,000. Indeed in your previous lecture the overhead unit cost was $ 2.84/hour, Coming from $190,000/64,000 hours. Am I correct? Thanks
koffeeEnam says
Hello Mr Moffat, I just realised that the overhead cost per unit for product A is supposed to be $8.90(78040/20000). hence, there will be a loss os $(3.90)
John Moffat says
Not true.
78040/20000 = 3.90 (not 8.90) and this is the overhead cost per unit, not a loss.
There is a profit of 1.10 per unit. Watch the lecture again or check the printed answer at the end of our free lecture notes.
mokgola says
Good day Sir.
I have a question why are we treating Machining cost differently from the rest of the cost pools? Why are we firstly calculating total machine hours for each product rather than just adding up all machine hour per unit of each product?
John Moffat says
We are not treating it differently.
We find the total of each activity – the total of all the set-ups; the total of all the machine hours, etc.. Do watch the lecture again because I do explain this and stress how important it is to watch out for it.
loukasierides says
Dear Sir,
Thank you for a clear and comprehensive lecture
John Moffat says
Thank you for the comment
nadiranks says
hi one question…in example 1 above calculating using abc, the receiving overhead is calculated as 30000/22 = 1363.636 in the above answer it was rounded off to 1364 per delivery..this makes the total amount of abc (a=13640 b=13640 c=2728) when calculated to be 30008.. This kind of throws me off…Is it ok to apportion it as 10/22 x 30000 to get a more precise figure or should it be done as shown? thank you…
John Moffat says
But as I explain in the lecture, when you later calculate the overheads per unit (which is the ultimate aim), then the rounding makes no difference at all because we calculated the cost per unit to the nearest cent.
nadiranks says
awwwww i must have missed that as I was trying to complete the question on my own the second time around….it just seemed easier to do it the other way as i dont want to get confused along the way when doing other questions..after alla one cent does make a difference in accounting ..lol…il go over that lecture again..thanks much…
John Moffat says
You are welcome 🙂
samad92 says
Thank you so much sir, for the wonderful lecture.
John Moffat says
Thank you for your comment 🙂
trang104 says
Good day Mr. Moffat,
For the poor student like me. You have give me a huge advantageous to self-study ACCA. God blesses you, sir.
Kind regards,
Trang
John Moffat says
Thank you for your comment 🙂
nomadd says
Sir, what does machining means ? Like I understand the terms like set up cost … receivables… Despatch. But what does machining means? Why it’s coming under the category of overhead?
ololade2017 says
Thank you for this link. My question is, in real life practice, how do accountant determine the selling price
John Moffat says
There is no one way. If you watch the free lectures on pricing then I work through the various things they will consider, and the various techniques they may use.
Samuel Koroma says
Thank you sir. Indeed ABC is more time consuming when dealing with cost drivers. Separate cost driver rate (OAR) calculated for each activity. Does this make ABC a much more complex method?
Adina says
Hello Mr. Moffat,
One question, if I may, regarding possible cost drivers. I am trying to solve a problem which mentions : “Distribution costs (all indirect) amount to X$ and are assigned to products by means of the production cost.” Can the production cost be used as a cost driver for the allocation of the distribution costs? I, for instance, considered as cost driver, for this particular allocation, the production – the level of activity for each product. Please let me know your thoughts regarding this.
Thank you in advance,
Adina
John Moffat says
If a question says that the production cost is to be used, then you must use the production cost.
If you are asking whether it is sensible in ‘real-life’, then it depends. There are no rules and it is whatever management feel is the most sensible. The reason cost might be regarded as better than units, is that some products may be bigger than others and therefore cost more to deliver. It is likely that bigger units cost more to produce.
Adina says
Thank you!
John Moffat says
You are welcome 🙂
mariogiangrande says
Sir,
Regarding machining costs:
Labour hours for B should be 1 hour times 25, 000 units = 25,000 hours and total (A+B+C) 67,000 instead of 94,000. Indeed in your previous lecture the overhead unit cost was $ 2.84/hour, Coming from $190,000/64,000 hours. Am I correct?
Thanks
John Moffat says
But for machining we need to use machine hours, not about hours.
mariogiangrande says
Apologies, I just reviewed my calculations and I was wrong. Hence no need to answer this. Thanks
John Moffat says
No problem 🙂