In the case of Photo Productions v Securicor Transport Although there was an exclusion clause in the contract… shouldn’t Securicor be Liable since it was due to Negligent on behalf of its Employee?
What did the exclusion clause say? It said something that had the effect of protecting Securicor from liability for loss “no matter how caused”
Now, how much more comprehensive could that be? “No matter how caused” seems to me to cover ALL possibilities
The answer to your question is “No, Securicor should not be liable!
Sorry
As an additional matter, if you expect me (or any oher tutor) to answer your questions, you would be well advised to post your question on the “Ask the Tutor” page. It was only by luck that I saw this post
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I did share your pronunciation and comments of Demurrage with my colleagues. We are in the UK working for old British Steel near the coast, our vessels do incur lots of Demurrage charges which I process daily.
An exclusion for fundamental breach is not possible in the case of consumer contracts? Can you please explain following point in detail, i’m having problem understanding it Any ambiguity will be read strictly against the party seeking to rely on it.
In a commercial contract it IS possible to exclude liability for fundamental breach / total non-performnce (the Suisse case and Photoproductions v Securicor)
Where one party is seeking to rely on an exclusion clause, there is no flexibility applied by the Courts in their interpretation of the extent of applicability of that clause. That is, it is read strictly against the party seeking to rely upon it
If it’s vague then the Court will not be prepared to interpret any greater degree of certainty to the clause and it will likely therefore be ineffective
photoprodctions v securicor. seems totally unfair that photoproductions have to use there insurance to cover for the security man that set the place on fire, yes the exculsion law does get them to wriggle out so by the letter of the law yes photoproductions have to pay but why is there not a golden rule here similar to re sigworth when he kille his parents, law states there he should get the money but the golden rule said lets use common sense. why was common sense not applied here?
You should be ok with 2011 text – just make sure that it includes treasury shares and the Bribery Act. If it doesn’t, there are notes in the course notes on this site to cover both those topics
In the PhotoProductions v Securicor case, is it not implied that Securicor employees won’t do anything illegal – i.e. commit arson? I’m aware that the employee would be prosecuted by the state under a whole separate case, but surely this implies that the Securicor felllow could have helped himself to goods or deliberately vandalised the premises and Securicor would STILL not be liable?
If you look at the back of the course notes, you’ll find cases listed in “categories” I believe there’s a list of film cases including Greenhalgh v Arderne Cinemas, re F G Films, Gardner v Sevenoaks,
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VictoriaS says
Hi,
In the case of Photo Productions v Securicor Transport
Although there was an exclusion clause in the contract… shouldn’t Securicor be Liable since it was due to Negligent on behalf of its Employee?
Thanks in Advance.
MikeLittle says
What did the exclusion clause say? It said something that had the effect of protecting Securicor from liability for loss “no matter how caused”
Now, how much more comprehensive could that be? “No matter how caused” seems to me to cover ALL possibilities
The answer to your question is “No, Securicor should not be liable!
Sorry
As an additional matter, if you expect me (or any oher tutor) to answer your questions, you would be well advised to post your question on the “Ask the Tutor” page. It was only by luck that I saw this post
Ok?
VictoriaS says
Before your reply i listened again to the Lecture and got my answer …..but to be sure i awaited your confirmation 馃檪
Thank you.
& as per usual… amazing Lecture!
NOTED! i shall post my Queries to the forum next time.
Thx again
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Sabeen Mehdi says
Enjoying your knowledge of LAW and the way in which they are delivered.
I did share your pronunciation and comments of Demurrage with my colleagues.
We are in the UK working for old British Steel near the coast, our vessels do incur lots of Demurrage charges which I process daily.
Think I shall remember that case 馃檪
MikeLittle says
Excellent!
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Mahrukh says
An exclusion for fundamental breach is not possible in the case of consumer contracts?
Can you please explain following point in detail, i’m having problem understanding it
Any ambiguity will be read strictly against the party seeking to rely on it.
MikeLittle says
In a commercial contract it IS possible to exclude liability for fundamental breach / total non-performnce (the Suisse case and Photoproductions v Securicor)
Where one party is seeking to rely on an exclusion clause, there is no flexibility applied by the Courts in their interpretation of the extent of applicability of that clause. That is, it is read strictly against the party seeking to rely upon it
Better? Or do you need more?
Mahrukh says
What if the clause is vague?
Mahrukh says
If the clause has some vagueness?
MikeLittle says
If it’s vague then the Court will not be prepared to interpret any greater degree of certainty to the clause and it will likely therefore be ineffective
Yosef says
Great lesson
MikeLittle says
Thanks Yosef
Paul says
photoprodctions v securicor. seems totally unfair that photoproductions have to use there insurance to cover for the security man that set the place on fire, yes the exculsion law does get them to wriggle out so by the letter of the law yes photoproductions have to pay but why is there not a golden rule here similar to re sigworth when he kille his parents, law states there he should get the money but the golden rule said lets use common sense. why was common sense not applied here?
MikeLittle says
2 parties of relatively equal bargaining power? Unfair contract terms legislation won’t apply. Can agree to do anything, so long as it’s legal!
vanissakhan says
I am using bpp 2011 text book is that ok or do I need to get a more up to date text book
MikeLittle says
You should be ok with 2011 text – just make sure that it includes treasury shares and the Bribery Act. If it doesn’t, there are notes in the course notes on this site to cover both those topics
jillith says
In the PhotoProductions v Securicor case, is it not implied that Securicor employees won’t do anything illegal – i.e. commit arson? I’m aware that the employee would be prosecuted by the state under a whole separate case, but surely this implies that the Securicor felllow could have helped himself to goods or deliberately vandalised the premises and Securicor would STILL not be liable?
MikeLittle says
Hi, you’re looking a bit too deep into this! Just be aware that it IS possible to exclude liability for total non-performance
imrankhalid55 says
what is the films ? please give me the exact name so i will some images
thanks for your help..
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MikeLittle says
If you look at the back of the course notes, you’ll find cases listed in “categories” I believe there’s a list of film cases including Greenhalgh v Arderne Cinemas, re F G Films, Gardner v Sevenoaks,
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