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ACCA F3 Depreciation, Sale of non-current assets, Example 4

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  1. aliahmar says

    June 29, 2015 at 4:57 pm

    Dear Sir

    Why do we open a disposal account when we are selling off our NCA???

    In What heading under disposal account is classified??

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    • John Moffat says

      June 29, 2015 at 5:36 pm

      The disposal account is there in order to be able to calculate the profit or loss on disposal.

      The account itself is not classified under any headings. The profit or loss on disposal appears in the Statement of profit or loss under the heading expenses (as is explained in the lectures).

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  2. saif says

    May 22, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    Good evening sir. Sir I qualified PIPFA Pakistan institute of public finance accountant. Sir still your lectures are very very good .i really gain knowledge from it. Sir from depth of my heart ? I appreciate your lectures and study material

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  3. rustamrakhmatov27 says

    May 18, 2015 at 7:47 pm

    Sir,
    loss/gain on disposal is just NBV – scrap value? is that right?

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    • John Moffat says

      May 18, 2015 at 9:36 pm

      Yes (although it is any sale proceeds rather than scrap value – selling it does not always mean that you are scrapping it).

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  4. carla says

    May 5, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    GOOD DAY SIR I DNT KNW IF ITS JUST ME BUT I DIDNT GET 800 CAN U EXPLAIN TO ME PLS HOW U COME BY IT . CAUSE WEN I TOOK 7700-6500 I GOT 1200 N NOT 800. SO NOW IM A BIT CONFUSE PLS HELP

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    • John Moffat says

      May 5, 2015 at 9:59 pm

      Please do not write in capital letters.

      I really do not know why you should want to subtract 6,500 from 7,700!!

      On the debit side is 15,000 and on the credit side is 7,700 and 6,500. The missing figure to make both sides add up to 15,000 is 800.

      I do suggest that you watch the lecture again. I assume you have watched all the previous lectures – if not then you should, there is no point in just watching one lecture on its own.

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  5. pris43 says

    March 23, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    Thank you Mr Moffat for your thorough explanations. Today I learnt something new by reading through some of the comments here. I had also been used to the profit on sale being listed under other income on the income statement. Even though it has the same effect having it as negative expense under expenses at the end of it all, your explanation about depreciation having been over or under charged makes a lot of sense.

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  6. Liza says

    March 12, 2015 at 3:57 pm

    Hi!
    In the sale of noncurrent asset (example 4), can we just have a compound entry ( debit Accumulated depreciation, debit cash, debit loss on sale and credit car) instead of creating the disposal account?

    Many thanks!

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    • John Moffat says

      March 12, 2015 at 4:06 pm

      In practice you can certainly have a “compound entry”, although it is more normal to create a separate disposal account (especially if there are lots of separate disposals during the year).

      For the exam it is largely irrelevant anyway because there is not much testing of debits and credits. However, to be safe do make sure you are aware of the disposal account just in case it is mentioned.

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  7. Xaliq says

    November 7, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    Great explanation,thank you very much 馃檪

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  8. richard says

    September 18, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    Hi there,

    Firstly i would just like to say what great help these videos and the other material you offer is.

    In this video you mention about a book with more information. What is the book or text you are referring too?

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  9. mor112 says

    April 29, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    if it was a profit on sale – where on the income statement would it be??

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    • John Moffat says

      April 29, 2014 at 6:25 pm

      It would still be under expenses, but would appear as a negative expense.

      (The reason is that a profit or loss on sale occurs because the depreciation that had been charged in previous years was either more or less than it would have been if we had known in advance exactly how much we would sell the asset for. So….the profit or loss on sale is really a ‘correction’ to the depreciation charges.)

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      • Kings says

        October 9, 2014 at 4:05 pm

        Please can you explain more what you mean by a negative expense if it was a profit on the sale of the car

      • John Moffat says

        October 9, 2014 at 4:18 pm

        Whereas a loss on sale means less profit and it listed as one of our expenses, a profit on sale means more profit.

        However we still show it in the list of expenses, but show it as a negative figure. So, instead of increasing the total of the expenses (which it would if it was a loss), because it is a negative figure it reduced the total of the expenses.

  10. James says

    April 14, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    Hi John,
    Would the sale of the car ($6,500) show up as an extra item on the Balance sheet – or is it just that the cash would show an increase in current assets?

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    • John Moffat says

      April 14, 2014 at 4:48 pm

      The Statement of financial position only shows assets, liabilities and capital.

      Since the car no longer belongs to the company, it can not appear on the Statement.

      What will appear is a higher cash balance (or higher receivables it if was sold on credit) than would otherwise have appeared.

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      • James says

        April 14, 2014 at 5:55 pm

        Thanks, that makes perfect sense 馃檪

  11. ndutzz says

    September 12, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Please help. I cannot watch lectures on my computer. This is the message i am getting Server not found: rtmpt://r.acca.opentuitioncom.netdna-cdn.com:80/play

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      September 12, 2013 at 4:24 pm

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      • ndutzz says

        September 13, 2013 at 7:17 am

        Thanks Admin. I have used google chrome and its working just fine now. 馃檪

      • malikrauf says

        April 4, 2014 at 6:00 pm

        i cant understand the entries about revaluation nof an asset and disposal of non current asset .please can u help me about this .i am struggling about this but have no solution

      • John Moffat says

        April 4, 2014 at 6:40 pm

        I do go through the entries in the lecture (and the answers to the examples are at the back of the Course Notes).

        If you say which bit of it is causing the problem then I will do my best to help.

  12. Mark says

    August 23, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    11:57 Is that right or am i doing something wrong?

    Disposal Acc
    ————————————————–

    How did you get 1700??? Isit not 800 — – 15,000 – 6500-7700 ???

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    • Mark says

      August 23, 2013 at 12:14 pm

      Sorry, — My mistake, I should post after the video — Sorry

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  13. Mohammad Ibrahim says

    April 15, 2013 at 9:08 am

    @Admin is there any lecture for revaluation of asset for f3?

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    • John Moffat says

      April 15, 2013 at 10:36 am

      Look in the chapter on company accounts

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  14. m1n2b3v says

    February 18, 2013 at 9:18 am

    awesome

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  15. winniemirage2010 says

    November 29, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    where can i find the question to this solution.Thanks

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  16. nhs14 says

    September 1, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Same with me!!! I even do work on Friday evenings!!!

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  17. Miss A.. says

    August 14, 2012 at 3:58 am

    too good:)

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  18. malkyrox says

    June 18, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    Amazing clarity!!

    Thank you!

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  19. tahsin143543 says

    May 6, 2012 at 11:32 am

    i was not interested in my studies coz i wasnt understanding them.but now i am in love with my studies.

    thank you very much

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    • Miss A.. says

      August 14, 2012 at 3:57 am

      @tahsin143543, me too

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    • nhs14 says

      September 1, 2012 at 10:12 pm

      @tahsin143543, Same with me!!! I even do work on Friday evenings!!!

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  20. mel2000 says

    February 14, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    You have shown the Income Statement Extract but i would like to see the Statement of Financial Position extract for this question please.

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    • alifgan says

      August 29, 2012 at 9:41 am

      @mel2000, Helllo ! 馃檪 the extract is through the total net profit (from income statement) to SOFP under Capital & Liabilities section. The NCA-CAR will disappear from the SOFP.

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      • alifgan says

        August 29, 2012 at 9:42 am

        @alifgan, its Disappear because its not Melns asset anymore.

      • mkaur89 says

        May 19, 2017 at 7:36 am

        thanks for answering this I was wondering the same thing, but now I get it 馃檪

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