Question 2 in the test questions after this chapter asks for the Internal Rate of Return (IRR) with no other discounting interest rate, hence, the difference in interest rates cannot be determined. The answers at the end of the notes uses 20%. Is there a way to determine the interest rate to be used if not given? if so, how? and if not, how do I go about it?
You can use any calculator, provided that it can not store or display text.
Here is an extract from the ACCA exam regulations:
‘You are not permitted to use a dictionary or an electronic translator of any kind or have on or at your desk a calculator which can store or display text. You are also not permitted to use or have on or at your desk a mobile phone, tablet, pager, etc of any kind. These are known as ‘unauthorised items’. Any kept in bags or briefcases must be switched off at all times in the examination hall.’
Q. The following information relates to a two year project
initial investment $1 million cash inflow year 1 $750000 cash inflow year 2 $500000 cost of capital year 1 10% cost of capital year 2 15% What is the NPV of project (to nearest $500) Thanks in advance
You need to discount the time 1 flow using the 1 year discount factor at 10% from the tables. For the time 2 flow you need to discount for 1 year at 10% and 1 year at 15%, so multiply together the 1 year factors at 10 and 15%.
Sir , is this how the answer is done for the question: 750000*0.909=681750-1000000=318250 500000*0.756=378000-1000000=622000 10+318250/318250-6220000*10 =9.461 =94.6%
Sir sorry I might have done different thing as this is my first class on this , I should have done this : Year. Df. Cash flow 0. – ( 1000000) 1. 0.909 750000. =681750 2. 0.756 500000. = 378000 Total – 1000000 =59750 ( npv) Can u plz suggest me again .
Hi. Would you kindly explain the cost of capital. If a comp invests 24000 and and profits are 5000 pa for 6 years. Cost of capital is 12%. Its 12%of 5000 pa. Why does the comp get 12% less on each increment of 5000? Where does this cost come from? And why is it deducted from the 5000 each year?
The interest is charged on the amount invested. AT the beginning the interest is on the entire 24,000 but every time we receive 5,000 it reduces the amount borrowed and therefore saves interest.
The cost of capital is effectively the interest and you cannot be required to calculate it until Paper F9. In Paper F2 it will be given in the question.
Please help me to solve this Question. An equal payments of $200 is deposited in an account every month for 6 years. Interest is 15% p.a which is Compounded every month. What will be the balance after 6 years?.
You need to use the annuity formula to get the present value of 200 a month, and then you need to compound the present value to get the terminal value by multiplying by (1+r)^n
To get the present value you multiply 200 by 1/r x (1 – 1/(1+r)^n) and then to get the terminal value you multiply by (1+r)^n
(or you can do both steps at once by multiplying 200 by 1/r x ( (1+r))^n – 1) ) r is the monthly interest rate and r is the number of months.
Can someone please help me, trying to procuce an investment appraisal for a project for my HND accounting exam. Can someone tell me if it is both fixed and variable costs that go in to get your cash flow or only variable? and also is depreciation of the machine included in this also?
You only include extra (incremental) cash costs to the company.
So depreciation is never included – it is not a cash cost. Variable costs will be included – they will be extra costs. Any extra fixed costs that will be incurred by the company are included (but only if they are extra costs)
The NPV will change – with a lower cost of capital, the NPV will increase (which is logical – with less interest cost the project becomes more worthwhile). Try is yourself – discount at a lower interest rate and see what happens.
The IRR will not change – it is not dependent on the cost of capital.
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Jide says
Hello Sir,
Question 2 in the test questions after this chapter asks for the Internal Rate of Return (IRR) with no other discounting interest rate, hence, the difference in interest rates cannot be determined. The answers at the end of the notes uses 20%. Is there a way to determine the interest rate to be used if not given? if so, how? and if not, how do I go about it?
Many thanks.
John Moffat says
No- there is no way to determine.
As I explain in the lecture, you make one guess and then make a second guess. Any two guesses will do.
umas says
can we use a cfa approved calculator for all acca exams? – Thanks!
John Moffat says
You can use any calculator, provided that it can not store or display text.
Here is an extract from the ACCA exam regulations:
‘You are not permitted to use a dictionary or an electronic translator of any kind or have on or at your desk a calculator which can store or display text. You are also not permitted to use or have on or at your desk a mobile phone, tablet, pager, etc of any kind. These are known as ‘unauthorised items’. Any kept in bags or briefcases must be switched off at all times in the examination hall.’
mry73 says
Sir could you please explain this
Q. The following information relates to a two year project
initial investment $1 million
cash inflow year 1 $750000
cash inflow year 2 $500000
cost of capital year 1 10%
cost of capital year 2 15%
What is the NPV of project (to nearest $500)
Thanks in advance
John Moffat says
You need to discount the time 1 flow using the 1 year discount factor at 10% from the tables.
For the time 2 flow you need to discount for 1 year at 10% and 1 year at 15%, so multiply together the 1 year factors at 10 and 15%.
devansu says
Sir , is this how the answer is done for the question:
750000*0.909=681750-1000000=318250
500000*0.756=378000-1000000=622000
10+318250/318250-6220000*10
=9.461
=94.6%
John Moffat says
No – this makes no sense at all, and the NPV is never a %.
You do it the way that I wrote before.
devansu says
Sir sorry I might have done different thing as this is my first class on this ,
I should have done this :
Year. Df. Cash flow
0. – ( 1000000)
1. 0.909 750000. =681750
2. 0.756 500000. = 378000
Total – 1000000 =59750 ( npv)
Can u plz suggest me again .
elle says
Hi. Would you kindly explain the cost of capital. If a comp invests 24000 and and profits are 5000 pa for 6 years. Cost of capital is 12%. Its 12%of 5000 pa. Why does the comp get 12% less on each increment of 5000? Where does this cost come from? And why is it deducted from the 5000 each year?
John Moffat says
The interest is charged on the amount invested. AT the beginning the interest is on the entire 24,000 but every time we receive 5,000 it reduces the amount borrowed and therefore saves interest.
The cost of capital is effectively the interest and you cannot be required to calculate it until Paper F9. In Paper F2 it will be given in the question.
sooner says
Thank you John Moffat. Thanks for the correction in spelling. Typo error and maybe exam pressure lol.
Have a bless Day .
sooner says
Goodnight John Moffat
Please walk me through this question: At an interest rate of 15% the net present valve of a project is $2,500.
At an interest rate of 20%, the net present valve falls to minus $4,000.
What is the Internal Rate of Return of the Project
John Moffat says
The net present value (not valve 馃檪 ), falls by 6,500 over a chang of 5%’s.
At 15% the NPV is 2500, and so we want it to fall by 2,500 to get an NPV of zero.
A fall of 2,500 will be 2500/6500 x 5%.
If you add this to the 15%, then you will have the IRR.
devansu says
Sir if the answer for this is 16.92%?
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fatso1 says
Please help me to solve this Question. An equal payments of $200 is deposited in an account every month for 6 years. Interest is 15% p.a which is Compounded every month. What will be the balance after 6 years?.
John Moffat says
You need to use the annuity formula to get the present value of 200 a month, and then you need to compound the present value to get the terminal value by multiplying by (1+r)^n
To get the present value you multiply 200 by 1/r x (1 – 1/(1+r)^n) and then to get the terminal value you multiply by (1+r)^n
(or you can do both steps at once by multiplying 200 by 1/r x ( (1+r))^n – 1) )
r is the monthly interest rate and r is the number of months.
shazzy30 says
Hi. What would the answer for this question be and how would the workings be carried out?
Thanks
shazzy30 says
Hi. What would the answer for this question be and plz could you do the workings for me using numbers? I would greatly appreciate this 馃榾
Thanks
John Moffat says
I have shown the working in my last reply 馃檪
John Moffat says
You won’t get more complicated problems
fatso1 says
Thank you sir, now l can solve more complicated problems. God bless you.
Jade says
Can someone please help me, trying to procuce an investment appraisal for a project for my HND accounting exam. Can someone tell me if it is both fixed and variable costs that go in to get your cash flow or only variable? and also is depreciation of the machine included in this also?
Need reply ASAP.
Thanks
carlynspringer says
you must note that depreciation is a non cash component. It will not be in the cash flow.
John Moffat says
You only include extra (incremental) cash costs to the company.
So depreciation is never included – it is not a cash cost.
Variable costs will be included – they will be extra costs.
Any extra fixed costs that will be incurred by the company are included (but only if they are extra costs)
bellanystewart says
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nakeshia says
A project has a normal pattern of cash flows. If the company鈥檚 cost of capital decreases what would be the effect on the NPV and the IRR.
Would NPV & IRR stay the same?
Need urgent reply.
John Moffat says
The NPV will change – with a lower cost of capital, the NPV will increase (which is logical – with less interest cost the project becomes more worthwhile).
Try is yourself – discount at a lower interest rate and see what happens.
The IRR will not change – it is not dependent on the cost of capital.
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sally925 says
Why isn’t the question he is reading not in the course notes???
sally925 says
Ok! I’m so sorry! It was my mistake. Found it!
tansi235 says
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marembon says
On the test question 2 where is the 20% coming from.
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