Hi,lsnt that the 9%is used to calculate the coupn that we have to pay on the par value of R100,then we will find Irr which will be the cost of debth,after tax?
If market value of equity share is not given in the question. So should we need to add the reserves also in the calculation of WACC in book value of equity share capital or not ?
Have you watched all of the free Paper F9 lectures in which we go through the while syllabus?
The WACC is always calculated using the total market values of equity and debt (unless specifically told to do different). For equity, the total market value effectively already includes the reserves (so we don’t add them again) – it is the most obvious reason for the market value being higher than the nominal value.
If you are told to calculate a WACC based on book values (which is very rare because it is silly, but was asked as part of a question last time), then the book value of equity is share capital plus reserves.
It will help you to watch the lecture where I go through last times exam – in one question you were asked to calculate the WACC using both market values and using book values.
Thank you Sir for this excellent lecture. Just two short questions which although probably answered somewhere else it seems that I’m unable to grasp. First, the Examiner, in his model answer, uses as the two guesses for the IRR the percentages of 6% and 8% respectively. Is there a rule for choosing these two specific ones? Are we going to get negative marks for choosing two different ones?
And again the question about including or not an overdraft (O/D) balance in the calculations. I noticed that the Examiner in his answer mentions that either way is valid and will get full marks. But that was back in June 2010. Is this assumption still valid?
There is no rule for choosing the ‘guesses’ for the IRR. Any guesses are acceptable (unless, obviously, the examiner tells you which ones).
Different guesses will give slightly different answers (because the relationship is not linear) but will still get full marks.
With regard to the overdraft – yes, the assumption remains valid. It really depends whether the overdraft is intended to be long-term or short-term, but unless you are specifically told then you can assume either.
Sorry for not replying sooner – I only noticed your question today!
I am not sure what you mean by invoice financing? Invoice discounting means selling an invoice to a bank and getting cash earlier. Otherwise, the only ways of reducing overdraft relating to invoices is to collect money sooner (either by offering a discount for early payment, or using a factor to collect debts.)
However the problems are:
Invoice discounting is only a short term source of finance. It will give you more money (and therefore less overdraft) as a short term solution, but it will not help in the long term – in this question they need long term finance.
Collecting debts in faster is a long term solution, but the problem here is that the company needs $4M to reduce the overdraft. The receivables currently are $11.1M and so it is not really feasible that they could manage to collect debts so much quicker that they could reduce the overdraft by the required amount.
There is no harm in mentioning them if you think of them – the marker would probably give you a little bit of credit for the ideas (but, I am afraid, only a mark or two because of what I have written above.)
njivan28 says
Hi,lsnt that the 9%is used to calculate the coupn that we have to pay on the par value of R100,then we will find Irr which will be the cost of debth,after tax?
John Moffat says
9% is before tax. After tax it is 9 x 0.7 = 6.3%.
Raghav says
Hello Sir,
If market value of equity share is not given in the question.
So should we need to add the reserves also in the calculation of WACC in book value of equity share capital or not ?
John Moffat says
Have you watched all of the free Paper F9 lectures in which we go through the while syllabus?
The WACC is always calculated using the total market values of equity and debt (unless specifically told to do different). For equity, the total market value effectively already includes the reserves (so we don’t add them again) – it is the most obvious reason for the market value being higher than the nominal value.
If you are told to calculate a WACC based on book values (which is very rare because it is silly, but was asked as part of a question last time), then the book value of equity is share capital plus reserves.
It will help you to watch the lecture where I go through last times exam – in one question you were asked to calculate the WACC using both market values and using book values.
Kemi says
John,
I’m a little bit confused. When calculating WAAC, I got 6.33%
On Equity I calculated as 41/45 times 12% = .1093
Bond 4/45 times 7% = 6.22
In your calculation, to get 10.93. Unsure how you got 10.93 for one and .62 for the other. Please explain. Kind regards.
Kemi says
Not to worry. I got how you got it. I just thought you will divide first before times by the returns , which gave a different answer.
nkmile64 says
Thank you Sir for this excellent lecture. Just two short questions which although probably answered somewhere else it seems that I’m unable to grasp. First, the Examiner, in his model answer, uses as the two guesses for the IRR the percentages of 6% and 8% respectively. Is there a rule for choosing these two specific ones? Are we going to get negative marks for choosing two different ones?
And again the question about including or not an overdraft (O/D) balance in the calculations. I noticed that the Examiner in his answer mentions that either way is valid and will get full marks. But that was back in June 2010. Is this assumption still valid?
Thank you.
John Moffat says
There is no rule for choosing the ‘guesses’ for the IRR.
Any guesses are acceptable (unless, obviously, the examiner tells you which ones).
Different guesses will give slightly different answers (because the relationship is not linear) but will still get full marks.
With regard to the overdraft – yes, the assumption remains valid. It really depends whether the overdraft is intended to be long-term or short-term, but unless you are specifically told then you can assume either.
nkmile64 says
Thanks!
Tariq says
as at the first 7 minutes, i’m afraid you’re using the annuity for 9 years at 5%, not 10.
K'Liscious says
I caught that too.
John Moffat says
Ooops – sorry, you are correct. I will have to record it again.
(But never mind – things like that are bound to happen in the exam and it would only lose me 1 mark :-)) )
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elsie2009 says
Is invoice financing and or discounting an option to be considered for part d?
John Moffat says
Sorry for not replying sooner – I only noticed your question today!
I am not sure what you mean by invoice financing? Invoice discounting means selling an invoice to a bank and getting cash earlier. Otherwise, the only ways of reducing overdraft relating to invoices is to collect money sooner (either by offering a discount for early payment, or using a factor to collect debts.)
However the problems are:
Invoice discounting is only a short term source of finance. It will give you more money (and therefore less overdraft) as a short term solution, but it will not help in the long term – in this question they need long term finance.
Collecting debts in faster is a long term solution, but the problem here is that the company needs $4M to reduce the overdraft. The receivables currently are $11.1M and so it is not really feasible that they could manage to collect debts so much quicker that they could reduce the overdraft by the required amount.
There is no harm in mentioning them if you think of them – the marker would probably give you a little bit of credit for the ideas (but, I am afraid, only a mark or two because of what I have written above.)