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- December 9, 2014 at 2:18 pm #219712
hklui2007:
Q5 – I accept that B is perhaps a better answer. I will change my list.
Q15 – Using the dividend valuation model, it is the shareholders required return that determines the MV of the shares, not the cost of equity. (The cost of equity may equal to shareholders required return, but the MV is not determined by the cost to the company – it is the market value that determines the cost to the company.)
Q18: Expectations theory relates to future interest rates (not to foreign currency forward rates, and anyway forward rates are not based on expectations of anything – they are determined purely by the relative interest rates (interest rate parity)).
estyle:
Q12: Profit is certainly affected by risk, but it doesn’t account for risk.
Q10: An increase in the cash operating cycle will decrease profitability
December 9, 2014 at 2:18 pm #219234@olgawade said:
if i remember correctly after tax cost of capital was 6% and before was 9% so you should use before tax cost – 9%@olgawade said:
if i remember correctly after tax cost of capital was 6% and before was 9% so you should use before tax cost – 9%Pretty sure I used 9% my answer was $107 approx. is that right
December 9, 2014 at 2:24 pm #219719Cardine & hklui:
Although some of the MCQ’s were indeed a bit strange due to the wording, they were all in the syllabus and both BPP and Kaplan have the answers to all of them somewhere in their books 🙂
December 9, 2014 at 2:27 pm #219720Shahin: Q5 answer is an error and has now been corrected to B
Q18 answer is correctDecember 9, 2014 at 2:38 pm #219725@johnmoffat said:
Cardine & hklui:Although some of the MCQ’s were indeed a bit strange due to the wording, they were all in the syllabus and both BPP and Kaplan have the answers to all of them somewhere in their books 🙂
Sir John;
We should be given those marks – 12 which I believe will be beneficial to ALL students. The wording for some have me crying and wondered what they want to find out.
Thank you tutor, you are very objective and fair too.
Regards,
December 9, 2014 at 3:29 pm #219745Thank you for the answers John. I am challenging question 8 where I believe Answer B is the correct statement.
See below for an extract of the study text.
“Currency swaps can provide a hedge against exchange rate movements for longer periods than the forward market”What do you think?
December 9, 2014 at 3:38 pm #219748Could anybody please explain the reason why we should use before-tax cost of debt instead of after-tax cost of debt for Q9?
December 9, 2014 at 3:47 pm #219751@iwacca said:
Could anybody please explain the reason why we should use before-tax cost of debt instead of after-tax cost of debt for Q9?You are required to use the b/4 tax on Market value – available to public, who have their own tax benefits.
After tax for companies with the applicable tax rate – look at the slide on debt valuation and read the BPP text (this is the text I use) on the subject, or text on the topic. There is a distinction you need to make and you must understand that before you calculate values.
I hope i was of help and wish the BEST in your future – success for your results.
Regards,
December 9, 2014 at 4:07 pm #219760@Cardine said:
You are required to use the b/4 tax on Market value – available to public, who have their own tax benefits.After tax for companies with the applicable tax rate – look at the slide on debt valuation and read the BPP text (this is the text I use) on the subject, or text on the topic. There is a distinction you need to make and you must understand that before you calculate values.
I hope i was of help and wish the BEST in your future – success for your results.
Regards,
Thank you so much for your explanation. It really helps me understand clearly about this. Wish you all the best.
Regards,December 9, 2014 at 5:10 pm #219791Hi John.
thanks for your reply.
but i’m still confused about Q10.an increase in the cash operating cycle =
1) shorter pay to vendors, may be able to claim more discount
2) longer inventory turnover days, may be more inventory which is more profitable than cash in hand
3) longer receivable turnover days, may be more attractive to clients
all of them indicate an increase in profitability.i know that shorter cycle might be better, because it lowers risk to liquidity problem and make the business more “healthy”.
but longer cycle do increase profitablity i think.December 9, 2014 at 5:58 pm #219824I agree on question 10, An operating cycle alone says nothing about profitability. E.g. More inventory days could mean more stock on hand to meet demand and avoid stock outs, therefore increase profitability. Longer receivable terms may give that business the edge over competitors in the market and increase profitability ect
December 9, 2014 at 6:00 pm #219829Maybe acca can allow for 2 answers to be correct?
December 9, 2014 at 6:11 pm #219835@estyle said:
Hi John.
thanks for your reply.
but i’m still confused about Q10.an increase in the cash operating cycle =
1) shorter pay to vendors, may be able to claim more discount
2) longer inventory turnover days, may be more inventory which is more profitable than cash in hand
3) longer receivable turnover days, may be more attractive to clients
all of them indicate an increase in profitability.i know that shorter cycle might be better, because it lowers risk to liquidity problem and make the business more “healthy”.
but longer cycle do increase profitablity i think.totaly agree
December 9, 2014 at 6:42 pm #219849yes, many MC questions especially related to concept types are arguable. The examiner should think about it in the next diet.
December 9, 2014 at 7:07 pm #219855Hi folks.
Quick question about the redraft of the investment appraisal in Q4: in the exam, I inflated sale price, VC and FC from t1, and used the given WACC as DF, but now I’m wondering if this was correct: should there be no inflation at all if no nominal rate is given?! There seem to be differing opinions on this from previous comments and I really need to know!
Good luck to everyone!
Cheers!December 9, 2014 at 7:16 pm #219856WACC has already been considered the inflation and so it is the nominal rate, not real rate. If it is a real rate of WACC, the question must mention, I think.
So, all the variables should be inflated such as selling price, variable costs and fixed costs.
December 9, 2014 at 7:53 pm #219861Hi everyone question 4 why when we borrow now we dont do 4% x 6/12 ?? Answer shows 1.04 on borrow stage. Is this error ?
December 9, 2014 at 8:16 pm #219870@vipulv said:
Hi everyone question 4 why when we borrow now we dont do 4% x 6/12 ?? Answer shows 1.04 on borrow stage. Is this error ?it was 8%
December 9, 2014 at 8:19 pm #219871@basta said:
it was 8%8?? The open tution answer shows 1.04 (not dividing by 2 to get 6 months borrow) ? I have only seen this first time. I thought you do 6/12 or divide by 2 both borrow and deposit?
December 9, 2014 at 8:25 pm #219874wait the ques tells 8% if I remember correctly then it comes 1.04%(6 months)
December 9, 2014 at 8:44 pm #219878Looking through the OT answers there are a few answers i don’t understand in the MCQ
Q8: OT answer = A
But I put B as currency swaps can hedge exchange rate risk for longer than forwards, it definately says this in the bookQ10:
OT answer = D
I think B, as we can’t say in what way shortening operating cycle will effect profit unless we know more details than givenQ15:
OT answer = C
I think D, In the course we are told the higher a company WACC the lower the Npv of future cash flows and lower the MV. As lowering cost of equity would lower WACC and market value it would also lower share price i thoughtQ16:
OT answer = C
I put D in exam as was only sure of statement 2 being related to Fiscal Policy.
Checking the book, ‘fiscal policy is the action by the government to spend money, or to collect money in taxes, with the purpose of influencing the condition of the national economy.’Could it not be argued that ‘using official foreign currency reserves to buy the domestic currency’. Is a form of spending, and that buying domestic currency is likely to influence the condition of national economy,
Q 18 :
OT answer = D
I thought B, as liquidity preference theory says investors demand higher return for being unable to use their cash now.December 9, 2014 at 9:18 pm #219885@kevikraze said:
Looking through the OT answers there are a few answers i don’t understand in the MCQQ8: OT answer = A
But I put B as currency swaps can hedge exchange rate risk for longer than forwards, it definately says this in the bookQ10:
OT answer = D
I think B, as we can’t say in what way shortening operating cycle will effect profit unless we know more details than givenQ15:
OT answer = C
I think D, In the course we are told the higher a company WACC the lower the Npv of future cash flows and lower the MV. As lowering cost of equity would lower WACC and market value it would also lower share price i thoughtQ16:
OT answer = C
I put D in exam as was only sure of statement 2 being related to Fiscal Policy.
Checking the book, ‘fiscal policy is the action by the government to spend money, or to collect money in taxes, with the purpose of influencing the condition of the national economy.’Could it not be argued that ‘using official foreign currency reserves to buy the domestic currency’. Is a form of spending, and that buying domestic currency is likely to influence the condition of national economy,
Q 18 :
OT answer = D
I thought B, as liquidity preference theory says investors demand higher return for being unable to use their cash now.Kevin,
For question 8; 10 & 18 I agree with you. This is a suggested answer and open for discussions. You and others suggestions are welcome. It is the same points raised I said to myself when I choose the answers in the hall.
The MCQ’s took me half the total time allotted for the entire paper – just imagine the mad rush to get the other marks for the required passing grade.
Just give thanks you manage to complete – successfully and ask the markers for love and mercy.
Regards,
December 10, 2014 at 11:08 am #219957MCQs were very tricky – other questions were reasonable
December 10, 2014 at 12:19 pm #219966The section B was okay but de mcqs were nightmare
December 10, 2014 at 12:36 pm #219970Shouldnt you deduct from positive NPV also repayment of loan in the end of 4th year ? Then you would come to positive NPV under 1,000k ….
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