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*** F7 June 2016 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

Forums › ACCA Forums › ACCA FR Financial Reporting Forums › *** F7 June 2016 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

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  • June 8, 2016 at 9:32 pm #321178
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    As far as i remember, there were no dividends either

    June 8, 2016 at 9:33 pm #321180
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    I have 9,200 in P&L under OCI but 8,800 in SOFP.

    Why would a deferred income liability be recognised? if i’m showing the difference between revenue ($18.75m) and payments received ($10m) as an asset already at a value of $8.75m?

    Deferred icome doesnt come from this. It comes from the first note.

    Yes, 9200 in pl and 8800 in sfp

    June 8, 2016 at 9:33 pm #321181
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    What am i missing then lad?

    June 8, 2016 at 9:35 pm #321183
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    Could you,please, give any hints and advises to those who is going to have this exam paper F7? Thanks!

    June 8, 2016 at 9:35 pm #321184
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    There was mcq which had an option: gain on revaluation is recognized st the disposal of assets. This statement is wrong, right?

    June 8, 2016 at 9:35 pm #321186
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    From the revenue recognition for the product with 4 year service agreement? The product was already sold for $18m and only $16m recognised TD so increase by $2m plus additional $500K for the first year of service element the remainder wouldn’t be deferred would it? If it were then a corresponding asset would also need to be setup

    June 8, 2016 at 9:36 pm #321187
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    @almasha said:
    Could you,please, give any hints and advises to those who is going to have this exam paper F7? Thanks!

    Sacrifice one 15 points question that u know worse than the other, do other 15 points whole and 30 points whole

    June 8, 2016 at 9:37 pm #321189
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    From the revenue recognition for the product with 4 year service agreement? The product was already sold for $18m and only $16m recognised TD so increase by $2m plus additional $500K for the first year of service element the remainder wouldn’t be deferred would it? If it were then a corresponding asset would also need to be setup

    No, the point is you have 2000-500 to be recognized as 1500 deferred income

    June 8, 2016 at 9:39 pm #321192
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    From the revenue recognition for the product with 4 year service agreement? The product was already sold for $18m and only $16m recognised TD so increase by $2m plus additional $500K for the first year of service element the remainder wouldn’t be deferred would it? If it were then a corresponding asset would also need to be setup

    The sale relates to a single product and includes ongoing servicing from Downing Co for four years.

    So, 16m inludes already those 4 years

    June 8, 2016 at 9:40 pm #321193
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    @emo777 said:
    No, the point is you have 2000-500 to be recognized as 1500 deferred income

    Where are you getting those values from?

    June 8, 2016 at 9:41 pm #321194
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    Where are you getting those values from?

    2m is total for four years, 500 of which is recognized this year in addition to 18m

    June 8, 2016 at 9:45 pm #321197
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    Haha this is confusing me now!

    So you’re saying revenue from this sale should be $14.5m ($16m – $1.5m)? and that the $1.5m should be the deferred income liability?

    June 8, 2016 at 9:51 pm #321202
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    Haha this is confusing me now!

    So you’re saying revenue from this sale should be $14.5m ($16m – $1.5m)? and that the $1.5m should be the deferred income liability?

    16 includes 2000, but should only include 500. So deduct 1500
    16 includes other 14000, but it should be 18000. So add 4000

    167900-1500 plus 4000 is equal to 270400

    1500 is deverred income

    June 8, 2016 at 9:52 pm #321203
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    I’ve just read the revenue chapter and i think we’re both wrong! Should be as follows;

    Total standard cost = $20m
    Actual sale price = $16m
    Discount = 20% (($20m-$16m)/$20m)

    Therefore;
    Recognition of product = $18m-($18m x 20%) = $14.4m
    Recognition of service rev = ($2m-($2m x 20%)/4) = $400K

    So current allowable recognition = $14.8m
    Current deferred = $400K
    Non-current deferred = $800K

    June 8, 2016 at 10:00 pm #321210
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    Anyone know the correct approach for question 2? I estimate I’m sitting on about 40-45% excluding question 2 so I wish I could put my mind to rest that I’ve scrapped a pass or not, really could do without resitting this one lol but fear I may have to. Also anyone know the format of computer exams? Is it just going to be the same but with a computer?

    June 8, 2016 at 10:03 pm #321212
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    I’ve just read the revenue chapter and i think we’re both wrong! Should be as follows;

    Total standard cost = $20m
    Actual sale price = $16m
    Discount = 20% (($20m-$16m)/$20m)

    Therefore;
    Recognition of product = $18m-($18m x 20%) = $14.4m
    Recognition of service rev = ($2m-($2m x 20%)/4) = $400K

    So current allowable recognition = $14.8m
    Current deferred = $400K
    Non-current deferred = $800K

    No, we are not.

    June 8, 2016 at 10:04 pm #321213
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    I’ve just read the revenue chapter and i think we’re both wrong! Should be as follows;

    Total standard cost = $20m
    Actual sale price = $16m
    Discount = 20% (($20m-$16m)/$20m)

    Therefore;
    Recognition of product = $18m-($18m x 20%) = $14.4m
    Recognition of service rev = ($2m-($2m x 20%)/4) = $400K

    So current allowable recognition = $14.8m
    Current deferred = $400K
    Non-current deferred = $800K

    We used the correct rate of 62.5% which comes from 15/15+9

    June 8, 2016 at 10:05 pm #321214
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    @kevikraze said:
    Anyone know the correct approach for question 2? I estimate I’m sitting on about 40-45% excluding question 2 so I wish I could put my mind to rest that I’ve scrapped a pass or not, really could do without resitting this one lol but fear I may have to. Also anyone know the format of computer exams? Is it just going to be the same but with a computer?

    Kevin, how much for mcqs?

    June 8, 2016 at 10:06 pm #321217
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    @kevikraze said:
    Anyone know the correct approach for question 2? I estimate I’m sitting on about 40-45% excluding question 2 so I wish I could put my mind to rest that I’ve scrapped a pass or not, really could do without resitting this one lol but fear I may have to. Also anyone know the format of computer exams? Is it just going to be the same but with a computer?

    https://www.accaglobal.com/uk/en/student/exam-support-resources/fundamentals-exams-study-resources/f7/specimen-exams.html

    There a link here showing a specimen f7 Acca paper for the computer based method. Hopefully this will help you get a better idea.

    June 8, 2016 at 10:07 pm #321218
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    Incorrect

    62.5% is in relation to the contract asset

    June 8, 2016 at 10:09 pm #321219
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    @emo777 said:
    Kevin, how much for mcqs?

    Not certain until I can see them all with options but I think maybe 10 or 11 on mcq.

    June 8, 2016 at 10:09 pm #321220
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    Incorrect

    62.5% is in relation to the contract asset

    Yeah, and whats the problem?

    June 8, 2016 at 10:10 pm #321221
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    @samirrules said:
    https://www.accaglobal.com/uk/en/student/exam-support-resources/fundamentals-exams-study-resources/f7/specimen-exams.html

    There a link here showing a specimen f7 Acca paper for the computer based method. Hopefully this will help you get a better idea.

    Thanks sami

    June 8, 2016 at 10:12 pm #321222
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    @emo777 said:
    We used the correct rate of 62.5% which comes from 15/15+9

    There is no such a thing like discount. And our approach is right. There is something wtong with kaplan

    June 8, 2016 at 10:27 pm #321229
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    @kevikraze said:
    Not certain until I can see them all with options but I think maybe 10 or 11 on mcq.

    Optimistic u are about q1 and q3 then!

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