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*** F7 June 2016 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

Forums › ACCA Forums › ACCA FR Financial Reporting Forums › *** F7 June 2016 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

  • This topic has 456 replies, 63 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by accastudent1986.
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  • June 8, 2016 at 8:45 pm #321138
    faizsaid
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    goodluck to you cocky cow. if u bet on this question you will just lose ur money.

    June 8, 2016 at 8:46 pm #321141
    Gvtftf
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    Study text says that any decrease in deferred tax provision is presented in OCI and any increase reduces retained earnings

    I think you mean deferred tax attributable to revaluation, then yes, but they said in exam not to think about it. So, disregard

    June 8, 2016 at 8:47 pm #321142
    accastudent1986
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    It is the movement on deferred tax that will need to be accounted for:

    Increase in deferred tax provision:

    Dr Income tax expense/equity

    X

    Cr Deferred tax (SFP)

    X

    Reduction in deferred tax provision:

    Dr Deferred tax (SFP)

    X

    Cr Income tax expense/OCI

    X

    June 8, 2016 at 8:48 pm #321143
    Gvtftf
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    @faizsaid said:
    goodluck to you cocky cow. if u bet on this question you will just lose ur money.

    Hahahaha so i proved u to be wrong. And be careful with your words. And dont close the case until u are sure about what u are writing

    June 8, 2016 at 8:49 pm #321145
    Gvtftf
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    It is the movement on deferred tax that will need to be accounted for:

    Increase in deferred tax provision:

    Dr Income tax expense/equity

    X

    Bro, i have just looked through ias 1 and the only deferred tax to be recognized in oci is the one related to revaluation surplus

    Cr Deferred tax (SFP)

    X

    Reduction in deferred tax provision:

    Dr Deferred tax (SFP)

    X

    Cr Income tax expense/OCI

    X

    June 8, 2016 at 8:50 pm #321148
    Gvtftf
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    It is the movement on deferred tax that will need to be accounted for:

    Increase in deferred tax provision:

    Dr Income tax expense/equity

    X

    I havent seen this in ias 1. The only deferred tax in oci is the one related to revaluation surplus

    Cr Deferred tax (SFP)

    X

    Reduction in deferred tax provision:

    Dr Deferred tax (SFP)

    X

    Cr Income tax expense/OCI

    X

    June 8, 2016 at 8:51 pm #321150
    accastudent1986
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    I disagree on that, i know that a revaluation gain creates a deferred tax asset which is also shown in OCI but so does an ordinary reduction in deferred tax provision.

    June 8, 2016 at 8:52 pm #321151
    accastudent1986
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    TBH i know i’ve cocked up bits and pieces but i’m hoping i’ve shown enough understanding of the method and given clear workings that i’ll tot up enough points to achieve a pass as i seriously do not want to sit this exam for a 3rd time!

    June 8, 2016 at 8:54 pm #321154
    Gvtftf
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    I disagree on that, i know that a revaluation gain creates a deferred tax asset which is also shown in OCI but so does an ordinary reduction in deferred tax provision.

    Could you find me this in ias 1, please?

    June 8, 2016 at 8:55 pm #321155
    Gvtftf
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    I disagree on that, i know that a revaluation gain creates a deferred tax asset which is also shown in OCI but so does an ordinary reduction in deferred tax provision.

    Reduction in deferred provision just reduces your tax expdnse for the year, thats it

    June 8, 2016 at 8:56 pm #321156
    accastudent1986
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    My quote above was from the Kaplan F7 text book

    June 8, 2016 at 9:00 pm #321159
    Gvtftf
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    My quote above was from the Kaplan F7 text book

    But if you look through IAS1 presentation of financial statements, you will not be able to see deferred tax in oci,,only the one related to revaluation

    June 8, 2016 at 9:01 pm #321160
    accastudent1986
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    I’m looking through the taxation chapter and it does go on to agree with your point, although my quote above does contradict that :-S

    June 8, 2016 at 9:02 pm #321162
    Gvtftf
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    I’m looking through the taxation chapter and it does go on to agree with your point, although my quote above does contradict that :-S

    I practiced many questions on ias 1 and the only time i saw deferred tax in oci was coming from revaluation

    June 8, 2016 at 9:05 pm #321163
    Gvtftf
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    Even in the exam question itself they wrote: Any deferred tax movement should be reported in profit or loss.

    June 8, 2016 at 9:05 pm #321164
    accastudent1986
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    You agree that my quote above flies in the face of that though right?

    Also just to clarify and help me understand where i went wrong with this contract asset do you believe that i should have added $15m to COS and increased revenue by $18.75m and statement the asset as $8.75m ($18.75m – $10m)?

    June 8, 2016 at 9:12 pm #321166
    Gvtftf
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    You agree that my quote above flies in the face of that though right?

    Also just to clarify and help me understand where i went wrong with this contract asset do you believe that i should have added $15m to COS and increased revenue by $18.75m and statement the asset as $8.75m ($18.75m – $10m)?

    Regarding defered tax, im looking through past papers, no any case sith deferred in oci

    Regarding asset, yes, you should have done it

    June 8, 2016 at 9:16 pm #321167
    accastudent1986
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    ok i’ve corrected those elements on the SOFP but still have a variance any ideas?;

    Statement of Financial Position:
    Non-current assets:
    Property, Plant & Equipment 104,400
    Patent 3,400
    107,800
    Current assets:
    Inventory 32,100
    Trade receivables 38,500
    Contract asset 8,750
    79,350
    Total Assets: 187,150

    Equity:
    Share capital 25,000
    Retained earnings 51,444
    Other equity 11,800
    Equity option 2,430
    Revaluation reserve 9,600
    100,274
    Non-current liabilities:
    Loan note 28,276

    Current liabilities:
    Trade payables 46,400
    Income tax 11,400
    Deferred tax 3,700
    Bank Overdraft 2,700
    64,200
    Total equity & liabilities 192,750

    Reconciling difference 5,600

    June 8, 2016 at 9:19 pm #321168
    Gvtftf
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    ok i’ve corrected those elements on the SOFP but still have a variance any ideas?;

    Statement of Financial Position:
    Non-current assets:
    Property, Plant & Equipment 104,400
    Patent 3,400
    107,800
    Current assets:
    Inventory 32,100
    Trade receivables 38,500
    Contract asset 8,750
    79,350
    Total Assets: 187,150

    Equity:
    Share capital 25,000
    Retained earnings 51,444
    Other equity 11,800
    Equity option 2,430
    Revaluation reserve 9,600
    100,274
    Non-current liabilities:
    Loan note 28,276

    Current liabilities:
    Trade payables 46,400
    Income tax 11,400
    Deferred tax 3,700
    Bank Overdraft 2,700
    64,200
    Total equity & liabilities 192,750

    Reconciling difference 5,600

    1) revaluation reserve is 9200
    2) transfer from rev durp to ret ear. is 400
    3) in income statement, you should have writedown expense on patent equal to 3750-3400=350

    June 8, 2016 at 9:20 pm #321169
    Gvtftf
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    U also missed current and non current deferred income

    June 8, 2016 at 9:21 pm #321170
    Gvtftf
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    Deferred tax is non current

    June 8, 2016 at 9:23 pm #321171
    accastudent1986
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    I added the 350 impairment expense to P&L and came up with profit for year of 43,844 amended reserve & ret earnings as i’d marked transfer the wrong way round so revaluation reserve should be 8,800 and earnings of 52,244 but still have 5,600 variance

    June 8, 2016 at 9:24 pm #321172
    accastudent1986
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    plus if i add the deferred income the gap will increase further

    June 8, 2016 at 9:27 pm #321173
    Gvtftf
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    @accastudent1986 said:
    I added the 350 impairment expense to P&L and came up with profit for year of 43,844 amended reserve & ret earnings as i’d marked transfer the wrong way round so revaluation reserve should be 8,800 and earnings of 52,244 but still have 5,600 variance

    But u should recognized deferred income.

    8800 will be recorded in sfp, but in pl it will be recorded as 9200

    June 8, 2016 at 9:30 pm #321175
    accastudent1986
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    I have 9,200 in P&L under OCI but 8,800 in SOFP.

    Why would a deferred income liability be recognised? if i’m showing the difference between revenue ($18.75m) and payments received ($10m) as an asset already at a value of $8.75m?

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