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- December 6, 2018 at 6:14 pm #488065
This exam was a shocker, there was hardly any calculations involved, I could of probably walked in there without a calculator. There was nothing really on consol or financial instruments, two core areas in the syllabus.
Q2 was the easiest, I think the investment property shouldn’t haven’t been revalued as the directors assumption was a level 3 FV, a level 2 FV was available so this should of been used. The lease treatment was irrelevant. I can’t remember if the investment property adopted the cost or fair value model so I may have messed up on that part.
Q3 was a shocker in my opinion, I didn’t like Q4 however I think there could of been a few common sense points made in the tax part.
There was too much analysis and writing involved in this paper which caused me to rush Q’s. I finished it but still think I’ve failed, worst exam I’ve sat.
December 6, 2018 at 6:20 pm #488069Why ow why didn’t I sit P2 when I had the chance final exam and it will be touch and go wether I pass or not, wasn’t expecting so much conceptual framework, and q4bwas a disaster, 1 made a decent attempt at but doubt I got more than half the marks was not expecting 18 marks on cash flows. Q2 was pretty straight forward and first half of q3 for UK paper was aswell.
December 6, 2018 at 6:20 pm #488070Totally agree
December 6, 2018 at 6:24 pm #488072Well p2 was in the 50s normally but can’t see this one getting above 35% in line with the optional ones which would be a huge kick in the teeth
December 6, 2018 at 6:37 pm #488076It was a nightmare….. Really wasn’t expecting something like that. I practice both Kaplan & BPP kit also specimen paper including September question but today’s question was out of the world…. Too much confusing.
December 6, 2018 at 6:43 pm #488077I quite liked the cashflow question, the only bit with numbers! Think i got 339 as my answer. Q2 and 3 were hard, i wasnt sure whether to talk about level 2 and 3 valuations of whether it should b future cashflows as leased for full uel. The tax part of q4 was awful, for all those marks, i genuinely thort they had put an advanced tax q in our paper by mistake.
December 6, 2018 at 7:02 pm #488078So how I will continue ACCA with this low moral ..it was my first time to see such kind if hard paper in my life …I give up…
December 6, 2018 at 7:08 pm #488079After lease commencement, a lessee shall measure the right-of-use asset using a cost model, unless: [IFRS 16:29, 34, 35]
i) the right-of-use asset is an investment property and the lessee fair values its investment property under IAS 40; or
ii) the right-of-use asset relates to a class of PPE to which the lessee applies IAS 16’s revaluation model, in which case all right-of-use assets relating to that class of PPE can be revalued.
So should the investment property in Q2 be valued at fair value and not cost?
December 6, 2018 at 7:20 pm #488081@lynchpeter1 said:
After lease commencement, a lessee shall measure the right-of-use asset using a cost model, unless: [IFRS 16:29, 34, 35]i) the right-of-use asset is an investment property and the lessee fair values its investment property under IAS 40; or
ii) the right-of-use asset relates to a class of PPE to which the lessee applies IAS 16’s revaluation model, in which case all right-of-use assets relating to that class of PPE can be revalued.
So should the investment property in Q2 be valued at fair value and not cost?
I think it stated in the question they valued using fair values. but I think the issue was they over valued to avoid the breach of covenants and should have used the professional valuers valuation of 22 million. Think the lease was thrown in there to test your understanding of the IAS as per your point 1
December 6, 2018 at 7:24 pm #488083The SBR exam paper was not for students. It was bit of research works on Conceptual Framework, IASB’s EDs and Financial Reporting Standard. I felt it was for experienced financial reporting experts not for me :-(.
Anyhow, it was an opening of new question pattern for professional exam. I never met any of this kind of question set before in BPP, past exam papers etc.
No way to pass this time, what I wrote therein.
1. Cash flow: Did adjustment in operating expenses, calculated WC movement and drawn final balance.
2. Explained few silly points on each of the workings.
3. Ethics: Mentioned IAS40 can be used as lease to ensure rental earnings. But measurement of FV was not currect as non financial asset can be measured as their ‘highest and best use. Mentioned ethical issues but not at my satisfaction level-what I could write.
4. On DT only mentioned several definitions like tax computation, TAX base, DTaxLib, Temp Tax lib. Tried to say something on scenario.In exam condition to attend such horrific set of questions was put myself down and frustrated. Now become confused about my ongoing preparation for this and other professional exams!
December 6, 2018 at 7:36 pm #488088@kbourne said:
I think it stated in the question they valued using fair values. but I think the issue was they over valued to avoid the breach of covenants and should have used the professional valuers valuation of 22 million. Think the lease was thrown in there to test your understanding of the IAS as per your point 1Phew. I talked about IFRS 13 level 1 level 2 valuations and IAS 1 how the breach of covenant could lead to current liabilities.
I didn’t talk about the lease Itself though
December 6, 2018 at 7:44 pm #488090Also, it was technically a sale and leaseback transaction. I wrote something about them but not too much. Really struggled with time to write.
Overall, I’ve felt the exam was pretty unfair, to be honest.
Whilst you could possibly defend question 1, question 4 is absolutely indefensible. Was this really trial sat? And by whom?
I recall I read a few times that current issues were going to be tested less in SBR than P2. Not only is that not true in the slightest and they were featured just much, but the questions were basically knowledge based rather than principles based like in P2! And they were all compulsory for good measure.
I suspect the next few sessions will be just as hard if not harder, I’m afraid. ACCA clearly does not intend to make the qualification any easier than it was, and this is basically to offset the fact there are just 13 exams, not 14. The first paper could just have been a gift for the brave…
Also, P2 was a very challenging exam but you could feel it tested your accounting skills to the highest limit possible, and it was usually very fair (even though I marginally failed it). There was something prestigious about it. This one doesn’t feel like a real test of accounting skills but a weird exam which aspires to be practical and forward-looking but is it, really? Now, it is basically testing how many obscure areas of the syllabus you have covered, how lucky you are and how fast you can write.
December 6, 2018 at 7:58 pm #488091This paper was not fair. I learnt all the accounting standards – IAS, IFRS: you name it.
But a 7 mark question on IAS 2? Are you serious? So you’re saying someone can know IFRS 16 but not know IAS 2 and fail?
And conceptual framework embedded in all questions pretty much – really not fair. So someone who knows conceptual framework but can’t do a consol BS/PL or know harder IFRS can pass and be an ACCA accountant? compared to someone who doesn’t read the news?
14 marks on the most vague deferred tax question?
Honestly ACCA, I’m quitting altogether – stop stealing my money. I don’t want to be an ACCA accountant where people pass cos they know “concept”ual framework. P2 was better in that respect, it actually made sure you knew your accounting and standards and how to make a proper consolidated account.
If you haven’t gathered – hardest and weirdest ACCA paper
December 6, 2018 at 8:02 pm #488092Yes it was a daft exam in my opinion, way too much on IFRS etc, and realistically, who can remember all of them and the details in them? Moreover it’s not applicable to real life work, ive worked with some very small professionals who still need to look up a standard in order to treat a transaction in such a way, no one is expected to memorise them all ?
I read the comments from the September exam and they had a goodwill consol and cash flow question, this is what I’d expect. Today’s exam was all kings if wrong imoDecember 6, 2018 at 8:12 pm #488093Sorry to hear guys that this paper was absolutely dreadful.
I took the final P2 sitting and the contents off my memory were:
– consolidation SOFP – 35 marks
– UK question on associate accounting
– ethics question
– IFRS 9
– Deferred tax on FRS102 vs IFRS SME’s
– revenue/lease question
– IAS 39 provisionsSo comparing my exam which had much more of what P2/SBR is about, they ask you a bunch of knowledge areas on the framework and ED’s?? That’s unfair and not a representation of what the syllabus is about.
So you could’ve entered this exam not knowing any consolidation? I hope this is looked into for the sake of everyone who took it. I’m wishing you all the best guys regardless 🙂
December 6, 2018 at 8:34 pm #488097I have a question for ACCA…
Under IFRS 15 Revenue from Contracts with customers (including students):
how should you account for examination fees that have been collected for a SBR examination that doesn’t faithfully represent the study material that you have approved?If the performance obligation of producing a fair examination has not been fulfilled, should students be entitled to a refund?
If so, will you be reporting a significant reversal in the cumulative revenue you have recognised?
December 6, 2018 at 9:12 pm #488103By email: complaints@accaglobal.com
Please provide your full name and ACCA registration number in your email.I’ve sent an email. Anyone else?
December 6, 2018 at 9:19 pm #488104You are not the only one. I thought it was all about the investment property and the FV element and how it was going to affect the gearing ratio, as the £6m surplus would have gone to OCE part of the revaluation surplus account.
I assumed the $28m figure was included in the figures that were listed above, therefore if we reduced the Equity by $6m it would cause the gearing ratio to go past and beyond the 50% threshold, which in turn would make the bank loan repayable instantly.
I didn’t even catch the fact about it being a lease, because what bearing does a lease have on the gearing ratio? This has really got me.
December 6, 2018 at 9:20 pm #488105Yep I have just sent a complaint via email. This was so unfair that students put so much time and effort into the exam to then be faced with an exam like this!
December 6, 2018 at 9:20 pm #488106Extremely disappointed with this SBR exam, no consolidation, no proper ifrs testing, was this more of a general paper? From where should we learn all these frameworks , they are not described in detail in revision kits, nor books.
To say the least, today’s exam was not at all the Business reporting exam.December 6, 2018 at 9:21 pm #488107Hi guys. think we are all in the same boat here unfortunately. Very hard paper and lots of curveballs. Q4 was a killer. can anyone please advise on how the fair value of the coal would have been accounted for? I talked about fair values level 1 2 and 3 but wasn’t sure if I am honest. Could they have met the criteria of a Derivitive? HORRID paper
December 6, 2018 at 9:24 pm #488108@sr100 said:
You are not the only one. I thought it was all about the investment property and the FV element and how it was going to affect the gearing ratio, as the £6m surplus would have gone to OCE part of the revaluation surplus account.I assumed the $28m figure was included in the figures that were listed above, therefore if we reduced the Equity by $6m it would cause the gearing ratio to go past and beyond the 50% threshold, which in turn would make the bank loan repayable instantly.
I didn’t even catch the fact about it being a lease, because what bearing does a lease have on the gearing ratio? This has really got me.
The lease comes into play because you can recognise an Investment property under IAS40 if it is leased for the majority of its useful life. Think it was thrown in to try and veer people off
December 6, 2018 at 9:27 pm #488110@kbourne said:
The lease comes into play because you can recognise an Investment property under IAS40 if it is leased for the majority of its useful life. Think it was thrown in to try and veer people offBut what affect would a lease have on the gearing ratio?
December 6, 2018 at 9:33 pm #488111@sr100 said:
But what affect would a lease have on the gearing ratio?it wouldn’t. the valuation of 28m affected the ratio as it would have increased equity and reduced gearing. I just double checked on ifrs.org and actually think I am wrong about the long term lease. I think this would result in property being classified as owner occupied under IAS16…and not IAS40. wish I hadn’t looked!
December 6, 2018 at 9:34 pm #488112@kbourne said:
Hi guys. think we are all in the same boat here unfortunately. Very hard paper and lots of curveballs. Q4 was a killer. can anyone please advise on how the fair value of the coal would have been accounted for? I talked about fair values level 1 2 and 3 but wasn’t sure if I am honest. Could they have met the criteria of a Derivitive? HORRID paperI’d like to know the answer to this as well.
What on earth do you do with the inventory, if you know its going to lose 20% of its value in 3 years time.
I didn’t know what to write, so assumed it must be similar to CGU type of units, where you class the different grades of coal and measure them as individual groups at NRV, and if you know the price will drop then take out a futures contract.Didn’t have a clue on this.
Also, I know i went wrong on the control element vs business combination stuff. Totally through me in that.
I said the company should treat the Coal mine as a subsidiary if they purchase the additional 24% as they would have 52% in total, and any decision to be made requires 72% at least. So if every decision requires the parent company’s approval, then it is basically a sub. - AuthorPosts
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