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*** ACCA Paper SBR December 2018 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

Forums › ACCA Forums › ACCA SBR Strategic Business Reporting Forums › *** ACCA Paper SBR December 2018 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

  • This topic has 114 replies, 71 voices, and was last updated 6 years ago by frry06.
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  • December 6, 2018 at 9:38 pm #488114
    kbourne
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    Yep that’s how I went with it. I started by saying it is a joint arrangement as it required unanimous consent of all parties. Acquisition of the additional 24% would have prevented the other parties from having control so it would meet the criteria for control under IFRS10 and therefore can be accounted for as a subsidiary

    December 6, 2018 at 9:39 pm #488115
    sr100
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    @kbourne said:
    it wouldn’t. the valuation of 28m affected the ratio as it would have increased equity and reduced gearing. I just double checked on ifrs.org and actually think I am wrong about the long term lease. I think this would result in property being classified as owner occupied under IAS16…and not IAS40. wish I hadn’t looked!

    Didn’t we have to work out the gearing ration using the figures listed above. There was like a balance sheet extract?
    Why else would they have put these figures in for? I worked it out at 49% using the figures above, but assumed it included the $28m and when we reduced it down to $22m, it affected the equity by reducing the value, which tipped the ratio into 52% region.

    The only long term debt item was the bank loan at $50k.
    Then the equity came in at something like $10k+$70k+$20k ish.

    Then if that equity included the $6m revaluation gain in OCE and we removed it, then the equity figure reduced down to less than $100k and the gearing ratio was at 52%.

    I probably totally made that up, but seemed to make sense to me in the moment.

    Anybody else recall their answer?

    December 6, 2018 at 9:42 pm #488116
    jamesbruce
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    @lynchpeter1 said:
    By email: complaints@accaglobal.com
    Please provide your full name and ACCA registration number in your email.

    I’ve sent an email. Anyone else?

    I have sent a very long email thanks for the link ?

    December 6, 2018 at 9:43 pm #488117
    kbourne
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    @sr100 said:
    Didn’t we have to work out the gearing ration using the figures listed above. There was like a balance sheet extract?
    Why else would they have put these figures in for? I worked it out at 49% using the figures above, but assumed it included the $28m and when we reduced it down to $22m, it affected the equity by reducing the value, which tipped the ratio into 52% region.

    The only long term debt item was the bank loan at $50k.
    Then the equity came in at something like $10k+$70k+$20k ish.

    Then if that equity included the $6m revaluation gain in OCE and we removed it, then the equity figure reduced down to less than $100k and the gearing ratio was at 52%.

    I probably totally made that up, but seemed to make sense to me in the moment.

    Anybody else recall their answer?

    am sure it said when the MD realised that the gearing ratio was 51%….he revalued the property to 22m. ignoring the financial reporting standards. I got 49 using the provided figures too.

    December 6, 2018 at 9:46 pm #488120
    sr100
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    @kbourne said:
    am sure it said when the MD realised that the gearing ratio was 51%….he revalued the property to 22m. ignoring the financial reporting standards. I got 49 using the provided figures too.

    maybe i made a mistake in reading it.
    I thought it was included at 28m, because if it was included at 22m and the gearing ratio came out at 49%, then there wouldn’t be an issue. 49% is less than 50%.

    December 6, 2018 at 9:52 pm #488121
    achmast
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    Same here

    December 6, 2018 at 10:08 pm #488124
    natalieleung
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    In a nutshell Robert (your question to ACCA)

    I have also sent an email to express disappointment of c£2k, hundreds of hours, missed family time, annual leave from work all wasted.

    Anyone know how to transfer to an alternative professional body with higher pass rates and so likely more fair exam papers.

    Totally in shock at the depth beyond any study material.

    December 6, 2018 at 10:24 pm #488134
    kbourne
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    @sr100 said:
    maybe i made a mistake in reading it.
    I thought it was included at 28m, because if it was included at 22m and the gearing ratio came out at 49%, then there wouldn’t be an issue. 49% is less than 50%.

    sorry – yes…28! that was his own valuation wasn’t it? and the professional valuation was 22m. 50/104 gives you 49%….so you are correct it includes the entity own valuation of 28m. however it should have been 22m which would result in 50/98 giving you 51%.

    December 6, 2018 at 10:33 pm #488138
    rui2601
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    Hi all

    I have been shocked by so many questions and with the limitations on the time, I try as much as I can. In the last 30 minutes some of answer was back to my mind but I don’t gave time to get it onto paper in the best way. A few answers i did as:
    1, (i) cash flow PAT with adjustments to non cash item, remove associate profit, working capital both in number and narratives.
    (ii)For the impact on acquiring Davenport I wrote no impact on consideration as it is deferred and interim dividend received shall be included in cash generated from investments activity (IA)Disposal of baham proceeds is part of IA.
    (iii) Disposal of Bahamian is not discontinued operations, don’t know why, just guessed as similar subsidiaries are existing in the same geographical area.
    Reduce share in Davenport to 35% is not ncahfs, simply profit loss on disposal and derecognising subidiray nci goodwill, investment in association recognized.
    (iv ) I didn’t write anything and moved to q2.

    December 6, 2018 at 10:41 pm #488141
    rui2601
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    Q2

    Gearing with 28m revaluation ( 8 millimeters is other equity component) is 49.7%, with arm length fair value 22m the OQE reduced by 6m, then gearing is 52%. The correct accounting treatment means loan repay in full immediately where md is try to avoid.

    Deposit is not revenue, it is refundable if asset is not complete constructed, so it shall be liability.

    Revenue cannot recognize in stage as the performance obligations in contract is on completion of building asset.

    MD is try to boost the revenue to obtain profit to ease the worries from investors and bank.

    Accountant ethical as usual staffs.

    December 7, 2018 at 12:10 am #488151
    hangyin928
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    No matter how hard this SBR, still nearly 50% lads can pass it. Fact. Are you the lucky one? Time will tell…

    December 7, 2018 at 12:25 am #488153
    nfowdar
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    Ive complained and sent a long email to ACCA as well. This paper was a joke.

    If I was a head of an organisation, I would not hire someone who passed this paper cos simply it was not fair.

    Hiring someone who just knows conceptual framework but doesn’t test them on consolidation, IFRS and IAS but instead just IAS 12 (12-14 marks). ACCA is coming across as a scam whilst other people under CIMA and ACA are qualifying. There must be a reason why CIMA is quite popular now…

    December 7, 2018 at 4:55 am #488161
    kinde
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    complaints@accaglobal.com (send a complaints to ACCA by this email)

    December 7, 2018 at 7:20 am #488176
    tongy
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    This exam was a disaster for me, as for question 1 and 4 really tricky. i wonder which study material would prepare me better for SBR, thought Kaplan was better.

    December 7, 2018 at 10:13 am #488196
    jamioio
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    @sr100 said:
    But what affect would a lease have on the gearing ratio?

    IFRS 16 Leases states that a lease is probably a finance lease if one or more of the following apply:
    1) The lease term (including any secondary periods) is for the major part of the asset’s economic life
    2) At the inception of the lease, the present value of the lease payments amounts to at least substantially all of the fair value of the leased asset

    Both of these were found within the scenario text.

    The property could therefore be de-recognised as an asset, and re-recognised as a receivable discounted to present value.

    The discounting will lower the value of non-current assets and push gearing over the allowed limit. Further, the receivable is broken into non-current and current, again affecting the gearing ratio.

    I think this question is open to interpretation, perhaps the examiner will just want to see your point, and that it is well explained. I certainly appreciate the argument with regards to level 1 and 2 inputs.

    Personally, I found the IFRS 13 Fair Values element to be more useful in the ethical issues part of the question.

    December 7, 2018 at 11:11 am #488200
    conlonl
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    @jamioio said:
    IFRS 16 Leases states that a lease is probably a finance lease if one or more of the following apply:
    1) The lease term (including any secondary periods) is for the major part of the asset’s economic life
    2) At the inception of the lease, the present value of the lease payments amounts to at least substantially all of the fair value of the leased asset

    Both of these were found within the scenario text.

    The property could therefore be de-recognised as an asset, and re-recognised as a receivable discounted to present value.

    The discounting will lower the value of non-current assets and push gearing over the allowed limit. Further, the receivable is broken into non-current and current, again affecting the gearing ratio.

    I think this question is open to interpretation, perhaps the examiner will just want to see your point, and that it is well explained. I certainly appreciate the argument with regards to level 1 and 2 inputs.

    Personally, I found the IFRS 13 Fair Values element to be more useful in the ethical issues part of the question.

    A receivable has no impact on the gearing ratio

    December 7, 2018 at 11:11 am #488201
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    If anyone interested, SBR december exam is now added to past exams papers on ACCA website.

    December 7, 2018 at 11:35 am #488202
    kbourne
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    @moo123 said:
    If anyone interested, SBR december exam is now added to past exams papers on ACCA website.

    Thanks for heads up. That’s quick!

    December 7, 2018 at 11:38 am #488203
    conlonl
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    @moo123 said:
    If anyone interested, SBR december exam is now added to past exams papers on ACCA website.

    Question 3 is worded marginally different to the exam I sat

    December 7, 2018 at 12:06 pm #488208
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    What did you say in Q3 – b, recognizing the provision? and indicator of impairment?
    I said do not recognize the 3m provision as there is no obligation, and decline in price is an external indicator of impairment ..

    December 7, 2018 at 12:06 pm #488209
    gaby12
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    I think you are all right. This is very unfair. If they want to test this type of material it should be included in the books and articles so we can all get prepared for the exam.
    As all of you I have practiced all the consolidation examples and lernt as much as I could the theory trying to answer as many quaestions as possible but yesterday when I left the exam I fel very dissapointed 🙁
    I tried to make the most of the questions we had but not sure if I will pass, not sure they will give me enough marks for what I wrote there.
    I understand they want to have more analysis and interpretation but the materials we have used do not include the types of question we had yesterday

    December 7, 2018 at 12:22 pm #488211
    conlonl
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    @ritaalbu said:
    What did you say in Q3 – b, recognizing the provision? and indicator of impairment?
    I said do not recognize the 3m provision as there is no obligation, and decline in price is an external indicator of impairment ..

    Ok I’m very concerned now, my question 3 was completely different to this one, same company Fill but my question 2 included a question about how NCI should be measured, is this because I sat a uk variant or? Personally I prefer the question 3 on the website. Or did I just get a duff paper

    December 7, 2018 at 12:37 pm #488212
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    I said that a provision should be included because although there was no legal obligation, there was still a constructive obligation but I am probably completely wrong!

    December 7, 2018 at 12:37 pm #488213
    emmahumphrey1994
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    I said that a provision should be included because although there was no legal obligation, there was still a constructive obligation but I am probably completely wrong!

    @ritaalbu said:
    What did you say in Q3 – b, recognizing the provision? and indicator of impairment?
    I said do not recognize the 3m provision as there is no obligation, and decline in price is an external indicator of impairment ..

    December 7, 2018 at 12:54 pm #488217
    Koushik
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    Pls. do the survey if you think that the questions set was not upto the standard pattern. At least we can register our words what we have felt yesterday.
    Dear Student

    We’d really like to hear your feedback on the exams you took at the December 2018 session. It’s part of our quality assurance process before we start marking and helps us make sure that our exams are fair and a reasonable test of your knowledge.

    The survey takes around 20 minutes. Your feedback is for our information only and we promise that your responses will be treated anonymously.

    Hope you all got the email, please do the survey when you get time.

    Thanks

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