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- September 6, 2016 at 11:32 am #338218September 6, 2016 at 4:23 pm #338319
Was not easy, time pressured
September 6, 2016 at 4:30 pm #338321I found the consolidation question extremely easy compared to all the questions I tried during my revision: no change in composition, no foreign subsidiary, no weird fv adjustments….
I finished Q1 in 1 hour with my SFP nearly balancing! Amazing.Q2 and Q3 however, are a different story: I struggled to identify the issues in almost all the scenarios and even if I wrote something for each question I am pretty sure that won’t be enough to pass.
I skipped Q4 as I found it uninspiring. I was really hoping for a dicussion on the recent developments in IFRS 9, maybe hedging accounting, which I know inside out because of my job but nada…
I should have focused more on IFRS and their application rather than consolidation, now I really want to kick myself.
September 6, 2016 at 4:38 pm #338324Can any kind soul share what are the IFRS/IAS that came out & what is question 4 about,and Q1 is on SOFP or P/L?Thanks.
September 6, 2016 at 4:45 pm #338328@tyjtht said:
Can any kind soul share what are the IFRS/IAS that came out & what is question 4 about,and Q1 is on SOFP or P/L?Thanks.https://opentuition.com/topic/the-final-push-for-tomorrow/page/2/
September 6, 2016 at 4:46 pm #338330really?good for you.I found Basil`s NCI weird .I t was a full good will .Pepper had assesed the fv based on P/E ratio which would need to fall by 25% in order to make inmarketable shares on Basil marketable.the earnins were given.was it supposedto be calculated via business valuations (0.75 * 20)=p/e then * 40% in order to get NCI @ FV??
I alsolost it on restructuring.Instead I found IFRSs fair an exact opposite of you
September 6, 2016 at 4:52 pm #338333hello guys
i would like to know while preparing the working for conslidation, like group PPE, RE, OCE, & NCI, if we put the adjustment to be made in each working and don’t compute total and put in the sofp, will the workings be marked. or will we be penalised for the total not included in SOFP
September 6, 2016 at 4:57 pm #338340@tinaboy said:
really?good for you.I found Basil`s NCI weird .I t was a full good will .Pepper had assesed the fv based on P/E ratio which would need to fall by 25% in order to make inmarketable shares on Basil marketable.the earnins were given.was it supposedto be calculated via business valuations (0.75 * 20)=p/e then * 40% in order to get NCI @ FV??I alsolost it on restructuring.Instead I found IFRSs fair an exact opposite of you
The calculation of the Nci in Basil was very similar to question 06/15 Kutchen (which is also available as revision lecture here on OT).
I don’t remember the figures but you simply had to adjust the P/E ratio by reducing it by the percentage given.
Earnings, which were given, x the adjusted ratio = P, which is the total value of the sub. Since you want to determine the NCI you multiply that by 40%.So it seems to me that what you have done is right!
September 6, 2016 at 5:01 pm #338344Not sure if I was right but my SFP balanced!
September 6, 2016 at 5:02 pm #338345oh yes.thats what i did
September 6, 2016 at 5:09 pm #338350So the P2 examiner decided to spare the lifes of the candidates this september? Ah i remember when i took the March exam this year, the consolidate account was so freaking alien and the adjustment is just mind blowing that you are not sure what to do with it
well lucky back then i passed the paper
goodluck for those whose taking this session!
September 6, 2016 at 5:09 pm #338351Does anyone remember the ifrs/ias for 2nd & 3rd question?
September 6, 2016 at 5:10 pm #338352what did you guys do with working 5 on the restructuring….
September 6, 2016 at 5:10 pm #338353Consolidation structure was fine, but notes in that question were tricky.
1- which costs have u incl in restructuring provision?
2- how u deal with joint arrangement?I messed up my calculations and working, finally had aroun 100m difference in balance sheet
September 6, 2016 at 5:11 pm #338354Which ifrs did u identify for 2 n 3 question
September 6, 2016 at 5:17 pm #338358For the restructuring I provided for the redundancy costs, 3million for the onerous contract (there is a legal obligation as it is a contract) and the restructuring costs.
September 6, 2016 at 5:22 pm #338361Generally thought it was okay…
Quick thoughts. SFP! Pretty simple computation. Few adjustments. I made a few silly mistakes but generally did most of them okay.
Operating lease
Joint ventures
Deferred consideration
Impairment
Restructing
NCI was a different formula. Other than that mostly fine.The theory on restructuring and the impacts on next year for b was okay too. Ethics was fine too.
2 was tricky. Was revenue, deferred tax and forex/assets. Managed to muddle through. Thought tax was the hardest
3 was tough. Had investment/ifrs 3, ifrs 5 assets held for sale and also ias 10 events after balance sheet date.
Didn’t know what to write for ifrs 3 question but other two managed to write a fair bit.
September 6, 2016 at 5:27 pm #338368@wesbyss said:
I have
Q1 – ias36, ias37, ifrs11, ias17
Q2 – ias21, a bit ias16 and ifrs9, ias12, ifrs15
Q3 – ifrs2, ifrs5, ifrs3
Q4 was about ias 8 i think.For question 3 i wrote about ifrs 9( for the 2 options) because the first one had equity instrument but the second option had financial liability as there was an obligation to repay.
September 6, 2016 at 5:50 pm #338382Hi Guys,
Is any one remember the SOFP balance those who get it balanced?
September 6, 2016 at 5:51 pm #338385have you remember the total of soft?
September 6, 2016 at 6:02 pm #338386i get 46x.x?how about u?
September 6, 2016 at 6:34 pm #338394Here is my two pennies worth;
Q1 Seemed OK, although I may have messed up the NCI for Basil.
For restructuring calculation I only took 9 (redundancy payment of 4 and 3 onerous contract) thus excluding operating loss, gain on disposal and relocation cost. Hoping I got it right.1.b going back to restructure, can’t remember exactly what I wrote but said it’s a non adjusting event unless additional cost relates to prior period.
1.c where director created a company to get loan. Basically taked about how the subsidiary wasn’t a ‘business’ as defined by business combination and taked little bit on ethics.
2.a was based on purchase of foreign PPE with foreign loan. Basically taked about how monetary and non monetary item translated and interest expense translated using average rate. Then done some calculation and then 31/Aug there was a revaluation which I translated to show imparirment which should go to p/l
2.b was deferred tax, was bit tricky as I didn’t spend too much time on DT but done a calculation to show goodwill of 5 with DT liability of 1 on it. Tried to talk little bit on temporary difference but nothing significant. Also done calculation to show DTL/DTA for each assets and liabilities using subs tax rate this time.
2.c was revenue recognition, this was a question from past paper where you had to state 5 requirements under identify a contract and the other company does not meet the last criteria of “entity will probably collect the consideration”. One mistake I did on this was I supposed to write non-refundable payment was a deposit liability but I said it was prepayment.
3.a I talked about how it is important to separate debt and equity. Defined both and mentioned “Fixed test” as an option to identify equity. Then said how the entity need to calculate it.
3.b talked about what qualifies as held for sale and the entity should recognise it as held for sale. Also quickly mentioned how it should show as one line item on SOPL and SPFP.
3.c Simply ran out of time!
September 6, 2016 at 6:37 pm #338397@gt0707 said:
hello guysi would like to know while preparing the working for conslidation, like group PPE, RE, OCE, & NCI, if we put the adjustment to be made in each working and don’t compute total and put in the sofp, will the workings be marked. or will we be penalised for the total not included in SOFP
I’m guessing you mean like PPE(100+50) and then not adding up? If so that’s what I did as BPP lecturers alway say don’t waste time adding up and examiner isn’t there to test if you can add up.
September 6, 2016 at 6:48 pm #338399@ish123 said:
Here is my two pennies worth;Q1 Seemed OK, although I may have messed up the NCI for Basil.
For restructuring calculation I only took 9 (redundancy payment of 4 and 3 onerous contract) thus excluding operating loss, gain on disposal and relocation cost. Hoping I got it right.1.b going back to restructure, can’t remember exactly what I wrote but said it’s a non adjusting event unless additional cost relates to prior period.
1.c where director created a company to get loan. Basically taked about how the subsidiary wasn’t a ‘business’ as defined by business combination and taked little bit on ethics.
2.a was based on purchase of foreign PPE with foreign loan. Basically takes about how monetary and non monetary item translated and interest expense translated using average rate. Then done some calculation and then 31/Aug there was a revaluation which I translated to show imparirment which should go to p/l
2.b was deferred tax, was bit tricky as I didn’t spend too much time on DT but done a calculation to show goodwill of 5 with DT liability of 1 on it. Tried to talk little bit on temporary difference but nothing significant. Also done calculation to show DTL/DTA for each assets and liabilities using subs tax rate this time.
2.c was revenue recognition, this was a question from past paper where you had to state 5 requirement under identify a contract and the other company does not meet the last criteria of “entity will probably collect the consideration”. One mistake I did on this was I supposed to write non-refundable was a deposit liability but I said it was prepayment.
3.a I talked about how it is important to separate debt and equity. Defined both and mentioned “Fixed test” as an option to identify equity. Then said how the entity need to calculate it.
3.b talked about what qualifies as held for sale and the entity should recognise it as held for sale. Also quickly mentioned how it should show as one line item on SOPL and SPFP.
3.c Simply ran out of time!
Theory was similar I got an impairment of 0.85 in 2A. Thought was a detailed but nice question.
2C I mentioned the steps and said how it’s a Performance obligation at conception as that’s when R and R transfer. Howver if they can’t pay and they knew that shouldn’t take revenue at all. Something along those lines.
Tax, meh. Mentioned the theory, temporary and permenant. There was a difference of about 3m or Soemthing, deferred tax liability?
3C was hard, fudged about trying to explain about business combinations.
Agree on held for sale too.About 1B, I said how the company may have a future impact from the decision not to restructure. It was also after the audit opinion, therefore is that bad? Said could be misleading if they’ve decided to not to do it etc. Also they incurred dismantling costs, therefore more expenses.
Did mention how they may get a credit in the next year though and additional revenue. But leaned on the more negative side.
I focuses more on ethics. Lack of professional behaviour, competence, integrity not disclosing. Mentioned about fraud, disqualification etc etc. Standard ethical things
Hopefully done enough! Made silly little mistakes which I hope don’t cost me.
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Did anyone get a decrease in net assets for basil and thyme? I thought the csofp was reasonable… until that happened, which I have never seen in an example before, but clearly plausible, so I went with it :-/
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