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*** ACCA P2 December 2017 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

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  • December 5, 2017 at 5:02 pm #420739
    voldemortsapprentice
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    I found the exam all right but missed up on a simple things.

    Not adding the ‘profit the year in’ when calculating net assets translation
    Mistaking a cash based scheme as equity

    How stupid of me!!!

    I ended up getting zero for TCI for the year so sounds good that some got a loss or close to that!

    Only small marks so not point in getting myself down!!

    It was always gonna be a hard exam and that’s why P2 is known for being the hardest exam. Well done on everyone even getting to the P2 stage

    LIT LIT LIT

    December 5, 2017 at 5:16 pm #420742
    acca3336
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    Yes indeed too many small and silly mistakes, but in aggregate it might be material lol
    Part B was also hard. Too much blah blah is hard for p2 . I did q 3 and 4 as I found question 2 scary.
    I don’t expect a pass therefore I am not anxious about the results. I didn’t practice a lot due to other commitments and limited time.

    December 5, 2017 at 5:47 pm #420752
    beatab
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    These exams are so under time pressure. It took me too long to finish Q1 and then started panicing a bit. That’s why in the second part of the exam I gave too short and too vague answers, did not finish Q4 but calculated the cash share based payment as 1/3*(250-115) *46 (share price in 2019) …. I think…

    December 5, 2017 at 5:58 pm #420760
    hassanatcams
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    Please can someone tell that did Tybull sub qualified as an Operating Segment or not?

    December 5, 2017 at 6:08 pm #420768
    a011
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    Was it a DF tax asset or liability?

    December 5, 2017 at 6:33 pm #420773
    mon1982
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    I got deferred tax liability as carying amount was higher than the tax base. I also got DT liability on revaluation gain

    December 5, 2017 at 6:39 pm #420777
    mon1982
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    my answer was that it should not be an operating segment but a joint venture 🙁 I thought that because it is an overseas entity. I am pretty sure I was wrong tho

    December 5, 2017 at 6:42 pm #420778
    mon1982
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    I got fx loss. Also on net assets it was quite high

    December 5, 2017 at 9:40 pm #420817
    sa1pw
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    What did u guys write in ifrs8?

    December 5, 2017 at 10:01 pm #420821
    phil1990
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    guys does anyone remember the amounts in q1 regarding revaluation?
    tax base, fv and ca for both years??

    December 5, 2017 at 10:40 pm #420824
    Mazarul
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    Hey guys, i’m feeling so low, i really dont want to retake.

    I thought Q1 was okish apart from part C, D. I had FX exchange loss for both Net Assets and G/will.

    SEction B is load of shi*** what sort of crap are they playing at…confusing

    December 5, 2017 at 11:05 pm #420826
    ddmoo
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    Ehhhh I feel as though it was an okay paper but I just panicked. I literally did Ashanti past paper question yesterday which was very similar for Q1a but I forgot to do the Exchange Rate gains/losses as I got it into my head that that was a balance sheet item. I also completely forgot how to do Pensions so I just charged the service costs to PnL and got a re measurement loss. The rest of Q1a went okay I guess.

    Q1b was some IFRS SME vs UK question which I didn’t know, probably wrote a few sentences for it and Q1c I feel as though I got a hand full of marks.

    I chose to do Q2 and Q4 as Q3 looked okay for about 15 marks of it but there was an 8 marker again on IFRS SME vs UK which I didn’t know at all.

    From what I remember Q2 and Q4 included IFRS 9 (a lot) where a question had you identify 2 different types of preference shares. I said the first one was a liability and the 2nd was equity with reasons of course. There was some kind of Cash settled Share Based Payment calculation and they were showing it incorrectly as equity. And something about a Joint Venture where one company had a lot more control but I said it’s still a Joint Venture because it doesn’t matter about the control split.Oh and something about a company having 49% stake in another company and accounting for it as an associate but it had first choice of share options, had 4 out of the 6 board seats and the other shareholdings were spread so they should have been accounting for it as a subsidiary.

    I’m really not sure what to expect. Maybe 25 for Q1 and anywhere from 15 to 30 on Q2 and Q4 combined. So anywhere between 40 and 55 I guess.

    At least if I have to resit in March I can book the International paper and not have to worry about the difference between UK FRS and IFRS but it sounds like you guys got some difficult Operating Segments question instead.

    December 5, 2017 at 11:06 pm #420827
    jsmp
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    Hi guys, I felt Q1 was ok but have realised I left out some key bits (probably to be expected from a consolidation question – just get the easy marks).

    I then did question 3 which was ok. I was not sure about some things so just make some assumptions which seemed logical.

    But question 2 was a disaster! I really did not know what to write. I ended up writing stuff about performance obligations which I am pretty sure is wrong but I had to write something!

    Overall I believe I have got a high 30s/low 40s mark. I gave it my best attempt so will take some time away from exams then start planning revision for the inevitable resit soon.

    What did you guys write for question 2?

    December 6, 2017 at 12:12 am #420828
    sa1pw
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    @jsmp said:
    Hi guys, I felt Q1 was ok but have realised I left out some key bits (probably to be expected from a consolidation question – just get the easy marks).

    I then did question 3 which was ok. I was not sure about some things so just make some assumptions which seemed logical.

    But question 2 was a disaster! I really did not know what to write. I ended up writing stuff about performance obligations which I am pretty sure is wrong but I had to write something!

    Overall I believe I have got a high 30s/low 40s mark. I gave it my best attempt so will take some time away from exams then start planning revision for the inevitable resit soon.

    What did you guys write for question 2?

    Q2 part b was easy rest was tough, I got JV In first part wrong. Last one was to recognize credit loss and liability.

    Q3 was

    December 6, 2017 at 6:34 am #420858
    voldemortsapprentice
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    Ive seen a few people saying the consolidation was easier than previous years. It definitely wasn’t

    For example, did you retranslate the PURP in inventory at the closing exchange rate? Did you add back the inventory to net assets at year end?

    Exactly, pipe down

    December 6, 2017 at 6:43 am #420863
    ddmoo
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    @voldemortsapprentice said:
    Ive seen a few people saying the consolidation was easier than previous years. It definitely wasn’t

    For example, did you retranslate the PURP in inventory at the closing exchange rate? Did you add back the inventory to net assets at year end?

    Exactly, pipe down

    Q1a usually has a few very hard marks like the ones you mentioned. I think another one that will have caught a lot of people out is the Deferred Tax for the revalued portion should have gone to OCI against the reserve.

    Still kicking myself for not doing the exchange rate loss or gain, so stupid!

    Hopefully if I have to resit in March it will be a Statement of Financial Position. I feel a lot more comfortable with them and you get a lot of marks just for easy things like the Goodwill and NCI workings.

    December 6, 2017 at 6:47 am #420864
    voldemortsapprentice
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    No ones ever going to get 100% and shouldn’t try to. I got the basics right and that’s what matters.

    All due respect, deferred tax to OCI is a simple consol technique 🙂

    Mind you, it would be 3 marks at the max so who cares!!!

    December 6, 2017 at 6:53 am #420866
    ddmoo
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    @voldemortsapprentice said:
    No ones ever going to get 100% and shouldn’t try to. I got the basics right and that’s what matters.

    All due respect, deferred tax to OCI is a simple consol technique 🙂

    Mind you, it would be 3 marks at the max so who cares!!!

    The change in DT for the year goes to the Tax for the year figure right? I imagine splitting out the revalued amount to OCI would have been worth 1 mark.

    December 6, 2017 at 7:44 am #420879
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    People mentioning not calculating goodwill, you did need to as there was an impairment. Did anyone use partial goodwill for company L? As it mentioned measuring based on NCI of net assets.

    As it was a steo up acquisition, for the start of the reporting year. It said it started at 40%. That they then acquired a further 20% . Did anyone calculate this extra 20% as 20% of the remaining 60 and got 12 , there for company L owned 40%+12% which gave 52%?

    December 6, 2017 at 8:43 am #420903
    ddmoo
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    @alisonnln said:
    People mentioning not calculating goodwill, you did need to as there was an impairment. Did anyone use partial goodwill for company L? As it mentioned measuring based on NCI of net assets.

    As it was a steo up acquisition, for the start of the reporting year. It said it started at 40%. That they then acquired a further 20% . Did anyone calculate this extra 20% as 20% of the remaining 60 and got 12 , there for company L owned 40%+12% which gave 52%?

    It was no control to control so I calculated the Goodwill in this way:

    FV of consideration for 20%
    Add FV of Existing 40% at current (When the 20% was bought)
    Add NCI
    Less Fair Value of the Net Assets

    December 6, 2017 at 9:13 am #420905
    doublej2
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    And i believe that they mentioned the NCI is the same as FV of consideration 20% equity?

    December 6, 2017 at 10:16 am #420960
    jasm
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    Tricky paper, expecting to fail. Better start preparing soon. 🙁

    December 6, 2017 at 10:23 am #420961
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    Did any of you use the revenue and profit (over 10%) to say Tybull need to report seperately as an operating segmenton for Q1?

    December 6, 2017 at 10:31 am #420964
    Anonymous
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    Yes, and both revenue and profit % exceeded 10% . How did you treat legal fees in Q.1? I adjusted it to p/l . Not sure that was right;)

    December 6, 2017 at 10:34 am #420965
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    I put IFRS 8 states that an entity should report an operating segment if it is how the chief operating decision makers (CODM) look at segments within the company. This would be discrete information used by management to allocate resources to that segment. So Tybull would only be an operating segment if it is segmented by management.

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