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Leases - sale and leaseback Example (at fair value) - ACCA Financial Reporting (FR)

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  1. Lisa
    ?

    P= PMT × (1?(1+r) -n
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    r

    PV = 1M x (1 - (1 + 0.05)-10
    ____________________
    0.05

    PV = 1M x (1 - 0.6139132535)
    _______________________
    0.05

    PV = 1M x (0.3860867465)
    ?_______________________
    ? 0.05

    PV = 386986.7465/0.05 = 7721734.93

    Round up to nearest whole number = 7721735

    Hope this helps!

    where:
    P=Present value of an annuity stream
    PMT=Dollar amount of each annuity payment
    r=Interest rate (also known as discount rate)
    n=Number of periods in which payments will be made
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  2. Kamran
    For anyone confused why the Right-of-use Asset is 6,486,257
    Chris multiplied the Carrying Value of 8,400,000 by 77.21735%, which on the calculator is 6,486,257.4
  3. phobe
    Is there some calculation error ?
    If based on Annuity from the table 10year and 5% it will give an amount of 7.722 which multiply, it would not give 7,721,735.

    Additionally, if I take $8.4m x 77.22% the amount will only give 6,486,480 ass well.
  4. phobe
    Where did the balancing figure came about ?
  5. Kamran
    There are 4 values
    DR Bank 10million
    CR Asset 8.4million
    CR Liability 7,721,735
    DR Asset 6,486,257

    the DR add up to 16,486,257 , and the CR add up to 16,121,735
    the difference of 364,522 is the gain/loss of rights transferred to the buyer
    Since the Debits are greater than the Credits, that difference was a gain on the SPL, and thus was Credited to SPL.
    hope that helped
  6. Mustafa
    Just to be exactly sure how this can be calculated. The amount used as balancing figure is the proportion of gain on the asset not leased back and can be Calculated as (1 - PV of Lease/Sale Price) * Total Gains on Sale. This is simply (1 - 77.22%) * (10m - 8.4m). Note that 77.22% is the proportion of the amount of lease-back to the sales proceeds, so the balance (1-77.22%) is not leased i.e. assumed to be with the Seller-Lessee

    (1 - 7,721,735/10,000,000) * 1,600,000 = 364,522
  7. Romeo
    77.22% of 8.4m gave me 6486480
  8. Romeo
    77.22% *8400000 gave me 6486480 not 6486257
  9. Mirza
    Hi, is there a systemtic method to calculate the Gain/Loss instead of being a pluging/balancing figure?

    thanks in advance....
  10. Mustafa
    Yes!
  11. Mustafa
    Yes!

    Just to be exactly sure how this can be calculated. The amount used as balancing figure is the proportion of gain on the asset not leased back and can be Calculated as (1 – PV of Lease/Sale Price) * Total Gains on Sale. This is simply (1 – 77.22%) * (10m – 8.4m). Note that 77.22% is the proportion of the amount of lease-back to the sales proceeds, so the balance (1-77.22%) is not leased i.e. assumed to be with the Seller-Lessee

    (1 – 7,721,735/10,000,000) * 1,600,000 = 364,522
  12. Dingzhou
    why do we multiple cash flow by annuity factor to derive the present value of the future payment? Shouldn't it be future payment/ annuity factor so we can know the present value?
  13. David
    No. An annuity factor takes ALL payments into account over a given period, not just one year.
  14. Abfullahi Mohamud Aden
    thanks we understand
  15. Esther
    Hi every. Hello Chris Thanks for the Lecture.
    just want a clarification on the value of the total proceeds from the asset($10,000,000), since its the same as the current fair value ($10,000,000)
    in a situation where the values are different, what do i use, the Fair value or the total proceeds? thanks
  16. shirleenlai
    Sir, may I know why we use 77.22% * 7721735= 6486257 for right of use asset?
  17. shirleenlai
    opps, is 77.22% * 8.4 million = 6486257, may I get the explanation?
  18. Syed
    did you understand why he used 77.22% * 8.4 million instead of 77.22% 7,721735
  19. John
    I love this
  20. alex mahamba kasonkho
    hie CHRIS

    1,000,000 * 7.722 =7,722,000


    how come you got 7,721,735
  21. prerna
    i didnt get how did we arrive at the figure 7.722
  22. prerna
    I did the PV calculation in excel for 10 years
    but that is a lengthy procedure is there any formula?
  23. NB
    Use a simple annuity formula. PV=R*{1-(1+r)^-n/r}. This will calculate the annuity factor (for constant cashflow/rentals only) and multiply the annuity factor by the Rental. you can calculate it easily
  24. kavan
    (1 - (1 + r)^-n) / r


    (1 - (1 + 0.05)^-10) / 0.05
  25. samimii
    Thanks
  26. prerna
    i didnt get it
    the formula is (1/1+0.05^10)
  27. mulengakaunda
    please help sir in detail how to get 7.722,i am not understanding because when i try to calculate the formula (1/1+0.05^10)=1,where are you getting 7.722
  28. aarti
    Exactly! This way we get 6.14%!
  29. ananyajoy
    Fairvalue-leaseliability/fairvalue*profit(difference between fair value and carryingvalue).
    try using this formula.i got the answer from this formula
  30. Paul Daniel
    I think we should use the ordinary annuity table and factors by clicking PVOA Table
  31. ashiksajan006
    I dont understand how the balancing figure got
  32. Gabby
    I don't get it. Please help. How did u get the balancing figure?
  33. borkarrahul95
    2278265+6486257-8400000=364522
  34. manan
    Hi Chris,

    In the example its $1M payment at end of the lease period that is 10 years so the PV should be 100k * 7.722 ? i am confused as to why do we calculate it this way..

    i watched the lecture many times but not able to understand..

    Thanks

    Manan
  35. oek1
    Hey manan,
    You should take the cash flow per year when calculating annuity.

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