The solution for example 2 was very confusing for me so I referred to the study text and found these rules
Note: If you have an issue of shares at full market price and a bonus issue, you apply a bonus fraction from the start of the year up to the date of the bonus issue. For example, if the bonus issue was 1 share for every 5 owned, the bonus fraction would be 6/5 (as everyone who had 5 shares now has 6) This applicable to c part of example 1
while the rule below is for Bonus and market issues combined (EXAMPLE 2)
If a question gives both a bonus issue and an issue of shares at full price: ? apply the bonus fraction from the start of the year up until the date of the bonus issue ? time-apportion the number of shares to reflect the cash being received from the market issue.
Chris has not uploaded any lecture for ex 2, so we have to use the above rules
update: seeing now its just your way of writing. where though there is a point after rather than before the digits since it as the cents (c) symbol at the end it is still read as cents only not dollars and cents. so unless you put the dollar sign ($) in front it is read as cents only. ok.
This is definitely one of the more challenging areas of FR. It helped me get my head round it when I understood that the purpose of the rights fraction was to pretend the “free” shares had always been in issue so we can compare with earlier periods.
in part c of example 1 you mentioned that for bonus issue the date is ignored and it is assumed that the bonus shares have always been in issue and accordingly we didn’t use weighted average approach for 125 shares, however in example 2 there is a bonus issue on 1st Dec of 2500 shares and as per the solution provided the bonus shares are weighted average for 4 months. Can you please clarify the approach to be followed with bonus shares?
Dear Chris Thank you for your great and useful videos. I just have question. is it enough to study opentuition notes and watch your lectures to pass the exam or need to study Kaplan book too ?F7 paper is my first exam so I have stress. Please guide me. Thank you <3
In part c of example 1 you mentioned that for bonus issue the date is ignored and it is assumed that the bonus shares have always been in issue and accordingly we didn’t use weighted average approach for 125 shares, however in example 2 there is a bonus issue on 1st Dec of 2500 shares and as per the solution provided the bonus shares are weighted average for 4 months. Can you please clarify the approach to be followed with bonus shares?
I think because the price of share after 1 Feb X6 that we calculated were $1.38 per share, this is the price before of the period from 1 Feb X6 and to the end of the year we didn’t have any change in the number of shares so, the price after are the same, Fraction = 1 and 600m*(5/12) = 250m
Mr. Barlow. Can i trouble you with a question regarding example 1 d) at page 73 ? You did not cover this in your audio lecture, but the text of page 133 implies that the extra shares are 63M. I do not understand why we have to divide the 500m by 8 Thank you in advance for your consideration.
In part d since there are 500m shares for the price of $ 1.4 and since the right issue happened on 1st Feb 2006 31,so calculating the no of shares from 1-Jul 2005 until 31 Jan 2006 for Seven months ,why not just to multiply 500 X 7/12 = 292m shares since that was before the issue
and then we calculate the no of share after the right issue.
Because you need to apply the rights issue fraction to all periods prior to the rights issue
nomalangadubesays
Greetings My challenge is, if there is a full market price issue just before the bonus issue how do i treat that? I am failing to grasp it, if a qtn has a full market price followed by bonus issue.
I think we would get the number of shares after bonus issue as a denominator for CY EPS (i.e. # at the beginning of the year + # full price issue + # bonus issue).
BUT we should also restate PY EPS, by changing denominator (PY denominator + # bonus issue).
Under the example of the right issue, for next year do we take the number of equity shares 600 million ? (600*12/12 – assuming no any changes in the number)
can you explain example 1 part d. where in ri8 issue.u have done this 5*1.40 and 1*1.25=8.25. my question is from where you get 5 & 1? kindly plzzz explain this.and also after & before issue
It’s given in the question: there was an issue of 1 share (@1.25) for each 5 shares (@1.40 – market price). Which means that shareholder who has 5 shares @1.40 received an additional 1 share @1.25. Which means he has 6 shares for the total price of 8.25
It is because each share issue is independent of the other, and so each part (a) to (d) is dealt with on an individual basis. It is important to understand how each issue of shares is dealt with individually before going on to anything more complex and a combination of the different scenarios.
In part d since there are 500m shares for the price of $ 1.4 and since the right issue happened on 1st Feb 2006 31,so calculating the no of shares from 1-Jul 2005 until 31 Jan 2006 for Seven months ,why not just to multiply 500 X 7/12 = 292m shares since that was before the issue
and then we calculate the no of share after the right issue.
Thanks for the video.i have a question . ,4000000 shares issued on 31.12.2001 of easch 25 cents.on 1.7.2002 the entity made a right issue 1 for 4 at 50 cents each.share price before the issue was $1,profit after tax 425000 and 320000 for the year ended 31.12.2002 and 31.12.2001 respevtively
calculate eps for 2002(including compartive) can you please explain me?
If you’re only looking to start the ACCA qualification then you want to be starting with the earlier papers. I’d recommend that you start by visiting the ACCA website (www.accaglobal.com).
Farhaan says
The solution for example 2 was very confusing for me so I referred to the study text and found these rules
Note: If you have an issue of shares at full market price and a bonus
issue, you apply a bonus fraction from the start of the year up to the
date of the bonus issue. For example, if the bonus issue was 1 share
for every 5 owned, the bonus fraction would be 6/5 (as everyone who
had 5 shares now has 6)
This applicable to c part of example 1
while the rule below is for
Bonus and market issues combined (EXAMPLE 2)
If a question gives both a bonus issue and an issue of shares at full price:
? apply the bonus fraction from the start of the year up until the date of the
bonus issue
? time-apportion the number of shares to reflect the cash being received
from the market issue.
Chris has not uploaded any lecture for ex 2, so we have to use the above rules
Farhaan says
Ignore the question marks they are meant to be bullet point lol
mastershiffu says
June has no 31st day
Shanoya says
for example 1 (b) I am getting Basic EPS (250/546) = $0.46c (ie. .46cents)
why or how did you get $45.80c? (ie.45dollars 80cents?)
Shanoya says
update:
seeing now its just your way of writing. where though there is a point after rather than before the digits since it as the cents (c) symbol at the end it is still read as cents only not dollars and cents.
so unless you put the dollar sign ($) in front it is read as cents only.
ok.
tules says
This is definitely one of the more challenging areas of FR. It helped me get my head round it when I understood that the purpose of the rights fraction was to pretend the “free” shares had always been in issue so we can compare with earlier periods.
vanshitaramani says
in part c of example 1 you mentioned that for bonus issue the date is ignored and it is assumed that the bonus shares have always been in issue and accordingly we didn’t use weighted average approach for 125 shares, however in example 2 there is a bonus issue on 1st Dec of 2500 shares and as per the solution provided the bonus shares are weighted average for 4 months. Can you please clarify the approach to be followed with bonus shares?
amirkvh says
Dear Chris
Thank you for your great and useful videos.
I just have question. is it enough to study opentuition notes and watch your lectures to pass the exam or need to study Kaplan book too ?F7 paper is my first exam so I have stress. Please guide me. Thank you <3
radhikachadha says
Thank you for your lectures,
In part c of example 1 you mentioned that for bonus issue the date is ignored and it is assumed that the bonus shares have always been in issue and accordingly we didn’t use weighted average approach for 125 shares, however in example 2 there is a bonus issue on 1st Dec of 2500 shares and as per the solution provided the bonus shares are weighted average for 4 months. Can you please clarify the approach to be followed with bonus shares?
Thanks in advance!
manasatl says
Hi Criss,
There is a question on bonus fraction(i.e; example 2 as per the notes, can you please make a video on explaining that.
Thanks in advance.
Leena@7yassin. says
Hello
MR
would you pleas explain how you calculate 250M in the the last working no (D)
because when I calculated I got 253.6 = 254 M .
Thanks .
nichoku says
hello, pls did you figure this out? I also got 254M
kumbu123 says
I think because the price of share after 1 Feb X6 that we calculated were $1.38 per share, this is the price before of the period from 1 Feb X6 and to the end of the year we didn’t have any change in the number of shares so, the price after are the same, Fraction = 1 and 600m*(5/12) = 250m
rsforza says
Mr. Barlow.
Can i trouble you with a question regarding example 1 d) at page 73 ?
You did not cover this in your audio lecture, but the text of page 133 implies that the extra shares are 63M.
I do not understand why we have to divide the 500m by 8
Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Asad says
1 for 5 offered at £1.25 when the market value is £1.40
So we are being offered 1share @ £1.25 = £1.25
For every 5 share which cost us £1.40 each = £7
So we now have 6 shares at a cost of £8.25 = 1.375
alawi sayed says
Hi ,
Thanks for your nice lectures,
In part d since there are 500m shares for the price of $ 1.4 and since the right issue happened on 1st Feb 2006 31,so calculating the no of shares from 1-Jul 2005 until 31 Jan 2006 for Seven months ,why not just to multiply 500 X 7/12 = 292m shares since that was before the issue
and then we calculate the no of share after the right issue.
Thanks,
barbjohn says
Because you need to apply the rights issue fraction to all periods prior to the rights issue
nomalangadube says
Greetings
My challenge is, if there is a full market price issue just before the bonus issue how do i treat that? I am failing to grasp it, if a qtn has a full market price followed by bonus issue.
mariakurina says
I think we would get the number of shares after bonus issue as a denominator for CY EPS (i.e. # at the beginning of the year + # full price issue + # bonus issue).
BUT we should also restate PY EPS, by changing denominator (PY denominator + # bonus issue).
dipeshshrestha says
Under the example of the right issue, for next year do we take the number of equity shares 600 million ? (600*12/12 – assuming no any changes in the number)
mariakurina says
Yes, if there would be no issue in year ending 30 June 20X7, then we would take 600 for calculation
mujtaba555 says
can you explain example 1 part d. where in ri8 issue.u have done this 5*1.40 and 1*1.25=8.25. my question is from where you get 5 & 1? kindly plzzz explain this.and also after & before issue
mariakurina says
It’s given in the question: there was an issue of 1 share (@1.25) for each 5 shares (@1.40 – market price). Which means that shareholder who has 5 shares @1.40 received an additional 1 share @1.25. Which means he has 6 shares for the total price of 8.25
alaya10 says
Hi,
When we calculated the rights issue, why dint we include the additional 50m on 1st aug or the bonus issue in nov?
P2-D2 says
Hi,
It is because each share issue is independent of the other, and so each part (a) to (d) is dealt with on an individual basis. It is important to understand how each issue of shares is dealt with individually before going on to anything more complex and a combination of the different scenarios.
Thanks
alawi sayed says
Hi ,
Thanks for your nice lectures,
In part d since there are 500m shares for the price of $ 1.4 and since the right issue happened on 1st Feb 2006 31,so calculating the no of shares from 1-Jul 2005 until 31 Jan 2006 for Seven months ,why not just to multiply 500 X 7/12 = 292m shares since that was before the issue
and then we calculate the no of share after the right issue.
Thanks,
joelsasi says
Thanks for the video.i have a question . ,4000000 shares issued on 31.12.2001 of easch 25 cents.on 1.7.2002 the entity made a right issue 1 for 4 at 50 cents each.share price before the issue was $1,profit after tax 425000 and 320000 for the year ended 31.12.2002 and 31.12.2001 respevtively
calculate eps for 2002(including compartive) can you please explain me?
P2-D2 says
Hi,
I’m not here to answer a full question for you, sorry. If you explain where you are struggling specifically then am happy to help.
Thanks
diribsa123 says
I want to stud ACCA online what shall I do??
P2-D2 says
Hi,
If you’re only looking to start the ACCA qualification then you want to be starting with the earlier papers. I’d recommend that you start by visiting the ACCA website (www.accaglobal.com).
Thanks
matthewrjames says
There is no 31st June in the calendar 😉
MikeLittle says
It’s inflation adjusted
Ashvin5 says
Haha xD