For your first question – error is only 500 as we are adjusting the figures from the previous year hence its called brought forward adjustment, the 300k you state of is is an error in the current year which is shown under separate column in SOCE and it is also not part of retained earnings .
For your second question – 1200 is the retained proft for the year and goes under the retained earnings column and its not under but in the same line as TCI as we want to calculate the total comprehensive income for the years including the revaluation surplus.
if you still do not understand, I would advise you to get thorough on IAS 16 and SOCE proforma
hello my question is why do they get 1200 as cost of sales and add 500.after they get 2000 as non current assets and minus 500(year 2008) what is the logic behind?
If suppose we were having an opening Revaluation reserve bal in 2008 than £500 should have been adjusted from Rev.Res and not from retained earnings/profits?
Question – Example #1 : It says some other property had been revalued by $300,000. If we credit revaluation reserve where do we debit it ? In the answer NCA is arrived as 2008 – 2000 Less – (500) Add – 800 difference between carrying value of 2008 and 2009 total – 2300
No impact of revaluation provided. Please can you help to explain this
To make it little complicated, can there be impact on depreciation charge of this year as there was error in measuring NCA in previous figures? May be not in this question but just possibility?
why is 500k deducted from the cost of sales and other expenses from 2008, as only depreciated amount related to the non current asset would have been deducted in p&l, then 500k can be deducted from the NCA in SFP.
500,000 is not deducted but added to cost of sales as it is the impairment. (Depreciation and impairment are always added to cost of sales) and yeah 500,000 is deducted from NCA as it is recorded in excess in 2008 and the same thing continues in 2009 as well. So in balance sheet, 500,000 will be deducted from both year’s given amount. Hope this helps.
will we need or be asked to illustrate fin. stat. for prior year as we are doing in the examples? i do not see it relevant but do not want to loose marks… i see it relevant to changes in equity for carrying forward balances or if the prior year required a material adjustment –
The comparative figures are last year’s published numbers in the financial statements. So if this year is reporting the 2019 results then the comparative figures are for 2018.
Just I have one enquiry, isn’t that revaluation of $300 should be charged to P&L of 2009 as last year there was impairment recorded in SPL and to the best of my knowledge any revaluation upward take place after previous impairment would be charged to P&L until reverse the initial impairment booked whether under Cost or Revaluation model.
Good knowledge of reversal of impairments, however it specifically states in the question that the revaluation in 2009 relates to other items of property and so not the property that had been impaired.
No, the SFP is not necessarily done first as we might need to only adjust the SPL if that is where the error has been made. It all depends on where the initial error has been made as to what needs to be corrected first, so please ensure that you read the questions carefully.
It doesn’t but we’re not told anything else to the contrary so it is fair enough to assume that they all relate to retained earnings, unless told otherwise.
phoben says
In the part SOCE, why is the RE – error as (500) only, what about the error happened in 2009 of 300k ?
phoben says
why is 1,200 under SOCE – RE under TCI ?
Farhaan says
For your first question – error is only 500 as we are adjusting the figures from the previous year hence its called brought forward adjustment, the 300k you state of is is an error in the current year which is shown under separate column in SOCE and it is also not part of retained earnings .
For your second question – 1200 is the retained proft for the year and goes under the retained earnings column and its not under but in the same line as TCI as we want to calculate the total comprehensive income for the years including the revaluation surplus.
if you still do not understand, I would advise you to get thorough on IAS 16 and SOCE proforma
murerwa says
hello
my question is why do they get 1200 as cost of sales and add 500.after they get 2000 as non current assets and minus 500(year 2008)
what is the logic behind?
Eric says
Impairment of 500 was not considered initially in cost of sale and expenses.
praveenmasih says
Hiya ,
If suppose we were having an opening Revaluation reserve bal in 2008 than £500 should have been adjusted from Rev.Res and not from retained earnings/profits?
Regards.
rmc73 says
Question – Example #1 : It says some other property had been revalued by $300,000. If we credit revaluation reserve where do we debit it ? In the answer NCA is arrived as
2008 – 2000
Less – (500)
Add – 800 difference between carrying value of 2008 and 2009
total – 2300
No impact of revaluation provided. Please can you help to explain this
deviant88 says
To make it little complicated, can there be impact on depreciation charge of this year as there was error in measuring NCA in previous figures? May be not in this question but just possibility?
Patrick says
why is 500k deducted from the cost of sales and other expenses from 2008, as only depreciated amount related to the non current asset would have been deducted in p&l, then 500k can be deducted from the NCA in SFP.
Thanks for helping me understand
Sanchi2408 says
500,000 is not deducted but added to cost of sales as it is the impairment. (Depreciation and impairment are always added to cost of sales) and yeah 500,000 is deducted from NCA as it is recorded in excess in 2008 and the same thing continues in 2009 as well. So in balance sheet, 500,000 will be deducted from both year’s given amount. Hope this helps.
jenny91 says
Please HELP!!
will we need or be asked to illustrate fin. stat. for prior year as we are doing in the examples? i do not see it relevant but do not want to loose marks… i see it relevant to changes in equity for carrying forward balances or if the prior year required a material adjustment –
Thank you again…
jenny91 says
P.S – AMAZING LECTURES- so easy to understand with your teaching!
seun says
Pls am always confused as to the meaning of ‘restating the comparative figures ‘
What is comparative figure?
Thank you.
P2-D2 says
The comparative figures are last year’s published numbers in the financial statements. So if this year is reporting the 2019 results then the comparative figures are for 2018.
qashmar says
Hi Chris,
Many thanks for your helpful and clear lectures.
Just I have one enquiry, isn’t that revaluation of $300 should be charged to P&L of 2009 as last year there was impairment recorded in SPL and to the best of my knowledge any revaluation upward take place after previous impairment would be charged to P&L until reverse the initial impairment booked whether under Cost or Revaluation model.
Regards,
P2-D2 says
Hi,
Good knowledge of reversal of impairments, however it specifically states in the question that the revaluation in 2009 relates to other items of property and so not the property that had been impaired.
Thanks
ctwong says
Hi Tutor,
For these errors, is an order the financial positions needs to be done first?
Thanks
Cindy
P2-D2 says
Hi Cindy,
No, the SFP is not necessarily done first as we might need to only adjust the SPL if that is where the error has been made. It all depends on where the initial error has been made as to what needs to be corrected first, so please ensure that you read the questions carefully.
Thanks
wgk says
Chapter 9, Example 1 – page 36 of notes
Where does it state that the Reserves in 2008 are ALL related to Retained Earnings? Thanks
P2-D2 says
Hi,
It doesn’t but we’re not told anything else to the contrary so it is fair enough to assume that they all relate to retained earnings, unless told otherwise.
Thanks
wgk says
thanks
wgk says
One further point – is the answer for PFY (2008) correct as per video or as per notes (pp 115). Thanks again.