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when to use before-tax and after-tax

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  • This topic has 9 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 10 months ago by LMR1006.
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  • August 7, 2024 at 6:02 pm #709268
    SoloYz
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    example 1 – answer : $2m/8%
    A company has annual after-tax operating cash flows of $2m per year which are expected to continue in perpetuity. The company has a cost of equity of 10%, a before-tax cost of debt of 5% and an after-tax weighted average cost of capital of 8% per year. Corporation tax is 20%.

    example 2 – calculation : used 4% but not 4%(1-25%)
    Ring Co has a cost of equity of 10% per year and a before-tax cost of debt of 4% per year. The company pays corporation tax of 25% per year.

    why some given the corporation tax but no need to use? isnt because the question is not asked under after-tax condition. like example 1 it stated after-tax so we need to use the after-tax. or in other way we use wacc instead of the cost

    August 8, 2024 at 8:53 am #709286
    LMR1006
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    The key difference is whether the question specifies the use of after-tax figures or not. If it does, as in example 1, the after-tax WACC is used. It clearly states the after-tax weighted average cost of capital (WACC) so it is explicitly given :0-)

    If it does not, as in example 2, the before-tax figures are used directly.
    The before-tax cost of debt is given as 4%, and the company pays a corporation tax of 25%. However, the question does not specify that the cost of debt should be adjusted for tax, which is why the before-tax cost of debt is used directly :0-)

    August 8, 2024 at 10:14 am #709291
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    but in section C question, i did faced that the question did not ask for after-tax but the cost of debt need to be kd(1-t). and the final calculation is to find out wacc but not mentioned is after-tax. so does it mean in section C, whenever we faced calculation of wacc every calculation must take in the tax? or calculation of wacc is needed to take in tax in every section?

    August 8, 2024 at 10:38 pm #709308
    LMR1006
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    In calculating the WACC, it is standard practice to use the after-tax cost of debt. This is because the company benefits from tax relief on the interest payments. Therefore, unless a question specifically states to ignore tax or does not provide any information about tax, you should always include the tax effect in your calculations. This applies to all sections, in the exam including Section C.

    August 12, 2024 at 8:12 pm #709591
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    other than this question, would u like to explain to me about the interim and exchange rate here are some examples

    example : interim dividend
    Geed Co paid an interim dividend of $0.06 per ordinary share on 31 OCT 20×6 and declared a final dividend of $0.08 on 31 DEC 20×6. the ordinary share in Geed Co are trading at a cum-div price of $1.83.

    dividend yield = [(0.06+0.08)/(1.83-0.08)]

    my question here is what if the interim dividend is paid under preference share but not ordinary share. do we still need to add into the calculation. or they add back into their own category

    example : exchange rate

    peso : $
    Spot exchange rate 5.467 – 5.498
    Six-month forward rate 5.521- 5.545

    in section B question, normally will be given (Spot exchange rate) and (Six-month forward rate). how to identify which to in a questions

    August 12, 2024 at 10:24 pm #709597
    LMR1006
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    You can’t just keep asking questions following on
    These are new and different questions
    Can you please ask them separately in future

    August 12, 2024 at 10:28 pm #709598
    LMR1006
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    So if the interim dividend is paid under preference shares and not ordinary shares, it would not be included in the calculation for ordinary shares. The dividend yield for preference shares would be calculated separately, taking into account any dividends paid specifically for preference shares.

    August 12, 2024 at 10:30 pm #709599
    LMR1006
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    You use the spot for money market hedge
    And the forward rate for forward contracts

    It depends on whether you are buying or selling
    Buy High
    Sell low

    August 13, 2024 at 8:04 am #709609
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    ok, thanks for the reply and sorry for that. i did ask separately but no one answering.

    so for the dividend yield for ordinary shares only take in interim ordinary dividend and final dividend, so as the preference shares. they do not take in others interim into their account, do i understand it correctly.

    August 13, 2024 at 9:55 pm #709637
    LMR1006
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    Where did you ask separately?
    You are correct

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