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translating overseas subsidiary

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  • August 23, 2015 at 4:13 pm #268240
    syed ali
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    on 1st june 2002 saint (parent) lent Albans (Subsidiary) $1400.The liability is recorded at historic rate within the non current liabilities of albans
    its also from test your understanding 2 of chapter 18 of kaplan book and i cannt know and understand how to adjust it sir please help me sir

    August 23, 2015 at 4:35 pm #268245
    MikeLittle
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    Translate at closing rate and then compare the translated figure with the parent’s own figure for the loan

    The difference is an exchange difference

    August 23, 2015 at 4:50 pm #268249
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    is it be treated as the translated reserve in SOFP and other comprehensive income in COnsolidated Statement of P/L

    August 23, 2015 at 4:52 pm #268250
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    and sir they included this difference in administrative expense but i think its intra group so it is not be included as we eliminate urp and intra group revenue is i am correct sir

    August 23, 2015 at 4:58 pm #268252
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    In the subsidiary’s own records, the exchange difference will be included somewhere within the statement of profit or loss (guidance is not given in IAS)

    Following that translation and adjustment, the loan receivable and payable will now be the same amount, so these cancel

    But the adjustment doesn’t cancel – that is correctly included as an expense

    Think about the double entry

    Dr Administrative expenses
    Cr Loan payable

    Now cancel Loan payable against Loan receivable

    Ok?

    August 23, 2015 at 5:10 pm #268254
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    sir i had question in mind that if this difference is expence to subsidiary then this is gain to the parent then why we should not cancel loss and gain with each other in consolidated statement of P/L

    August 23, 2015 at 6:39 pm #268260
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    Only the subsidiary will record the exchange difference. Why is is a gain for the parent? The parent will still receive the amount loaned – but it will cost the subsidiary more in its local currency to settle that debt. That’s all. No affect on the parent

    August 23, 2015 at 7:14 pm #268261
    syed ali
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    offf sir i totally lost it i learn it in detail in f9 ok i got this and once again thanks to you sir for support me

    August 23, 2015 at 8:03 pm #268267
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    Your welcome

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