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  • June 6, 2019 at 12:40 pm #519334
    maxpopper
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    Penfold owns 30% of Arnold , an unrelated entity. Penfold are not able to appoint any members of board of Arnold as other 70% is held by another investor who is able to appoint all members of board
    How should investment in Arnold be recorded in consolidated SOPF of Penfold?

    a) Subsidiary
    b) Associate
    c) Financial instrument
    d) Contingent asset

    Correct ans is C but please can you explain?
    Also Arnold is associate of Penfold na?

    June 8, 2019 at 1:35 pm #519840
    alessiari
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    * I am only a student*

    Subsidiary – 50 – 100% – control – full consolidation (P + S)
    Associate – 20 – 49% – significant influence – ( Equity accounting – investment)
    Investment – 0 – 29% – investment (As for single entity accounts)

    The percentages are important, but also the member of the company acquiring’s role in the board of directors ( ex. more than half, even if acquiring less than 50%, can actually mean that the company acquiring has control).

    You will find more under “introduction of groups”, whichever provider you are using. Hope it helps.

    June 8, 2019 at 5:04 pm #519872
    maxpopper
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    But here the answer is financial instruments, however, 30% holding falls under associate. So I do not understand this

    June 12, 2019 at 1:14 pm #520293
    P2-D2
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    Hi,

    I doubt you’d see a question like this in FR, it is more linked to SBR, but in case you do then the answer is correct.

    It isn’t just down to the percentage owned in order to determine the accounting treatment, you need to look at what can be done with the ownership percentage. If we are to equity account then we need to have influence, so the power to participate in the decision making. Here we may have 30% but we cannot influence anything as we cannot get a seat on the board, so it is not an associate and must be treated as a financial asset investment.

    Thanks

    June 12, 2019 at 1:55 pm #520313
    abodinho
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    Thanks a bunch for your explanation, it makes sense 100% now.

    June 24, 2019 at 9:10 pm #521236
    P2-D2
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    Glad it’s helped, and make sure that you remember it when you’re studying SBR!

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