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Substantive Procedures

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  • August 28, 2022 at 4:16 pm #664531
    yakubsidik
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    Why are the substantive procedures to collect evidence for Profit and loss items not covered i the lectures

    August 28, 2022 at 5:01 pm #664538
    Kim Smith
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    Short answer – because if you look at the syllabus, it doesn’t specify substantive procedures for profit and loss items.

    For example:
    4. The audit of specific items
    For each of the ACCOUNT BALANCES stated in
    this sub-capability:
    Explain the audit objectives and the audit
    procedures to obtain sufficient, appropriate
    evidence in relation to:
    a) Receivables:
    b) Inventory:
    etc ….

    August 28, 2022 at 5:12 pm #664539
    Kim Smith
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    Yes there are P&L items that make up the movements between opening and closing balances e.g.

    Opening receivables + sales – cash receipts +/- adjustments (journals for bad debts, etc) = Closing receivables

    Assuming the client has controls that are operating effectively (this should be all but the smallest of clients with – in the real world so small that they do not demand a statutory audit), the auditor will perform tests of controls on sales transactions (also purchases and payroll). If the audit concludes that controls are operating effectively to ensure that only valid transactions are recorded completely and accurately, then there is “indirect evidence” that the balances that result from transactions should exist and be accurate and complete at the year end.

    However, ISAs don’t allow auditors to obtain evidence solely from ToCs for material account balances – so there must always be substantive procedures (reduced) – see diagram on page 49 of the notes.

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