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September/ December 2015 ( Question -3-b)

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  • This topic has 3 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by P2-D2.
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  • November 8, 2017 at 8:27 pm #414912
    Saimon
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    Sir

    Can you please explain me the sep/dec 2015 question 3 b, i am having trouble in understanding this part

    I have read the examiner answer still i didn’t understand anything

    November 12, 2017 at 9:51 am #415347
    P2-D2
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    Hi,

    What is it that you specifically do not understand?

    Thanks

    May 1, 2018 at 11:32 am #449641
    yayplanet97
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    @P2-D2 said:
    Hi,

    What is it that you specifically do not understand?

    Thanks

    Sir,

    From the answer of Q3(b), it states a few evidences that the contract is net settled but the last sentence:
    ” However, the contract will probably still qualify as ’own use’ as long as it has been entered into and continues to be held for the expected counterparties’ sales/usage requirements. Additionally, the entity has not irrevocably designated the contract as
    measured at fair value through profit or loss, thus adding weight to the ’own use’ designation.”
    which sounds to me like it should be treated as a normal purchase instead of a derivative…
    does that mean an ‘own-use’ contract need to be treated as a normal purchase even if it can be settled net in cash?

    also, can an ‘own-use’ contract that cannot be settled net in cash be irrevocably designated the contract as measured at fair value through profit or loss therefore being treated like a derivative?

    May 4, 2018 at 10:01 pm #450138
    P2-D2
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    Hi,

    The answer is saying that it isn’t treated under IFRS 9, so would not be treated as a derivative, as it is an ‘own-use’ contract.

    If it is an ‘own-use’ contract then it won’t be a derivative, regardless of the settlement method.

    Thanks

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