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Question in Associates

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  • This topic has 9 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • November 18, 2014 at 6:56 am #210856
    debony
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    Hello Mike

    I was going through your answers for the Associates and JV questions and I got stuck with Eg 2. In the Consolidated RE calculation, you calculated the share of Antonas post acqn as 1/6 x 32-20, I’ve looked everywhere in the question and can’t figure out where you got the 20. However, in your lecture on the topic, you mentioned that the post acpn was calculated as NA post acqn-NA @ acpn which is £12000, that I get but I don’t know why it’s calculated differently in the course notes. Thanks.

    November 19, 2014 at 8:23 pm #211408
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    Net assets at date of acquisition were 100 and the share capital of the JV was 80. Therefore the retained earnings at date of acquisition must have been 20

    Now they are 32

    so post acq retained must be 32 – 20 = 12

    Better?

    November 24, 2014 at 4:59 am #212546
    debony
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    Thanks for making it clear Mike. I’ve got another question, if you don’t mind? In eg 4 of chapter 3 of your course notes, I really don’t know how you got the 7/15 as the group’s share of the NA in the goodwill calculation. I understood the 70%, the 2/15 and I thought that K’s share in L was 10/15 and not 7/15. Thanks.

    November 24, 2014 at 4:36 pm #212787
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    Yes, K in L is 10/15 but what we are looking for is A’s share through K in L and that’s 70% * 10/15 = 7/15

    Ok?

    November 27, 2014 at 5:48 am #213643
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    Thanks, I completely overlooked that little detail. I’ve got another question about the change in the composition of a group. In the NCI calculation, why did we have to use the proportionate method when the FV, £100000 was given? I thought if the FV was given, that would be the figure to use.

    November 29, 2014 at 11:43 am #214303
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    I don’t have the notes easily to hand, I don’t have access to a printer in the hotel and it’s extremely difficult reading these notes on an iPad.

    However, I’ll have a guess at what I think you may have done. No doubt you’ll correct me if my guess is off target 🙂

    Do I remember that only one of the subsidiaries was fair value and the other proportionate? Have you confused them?

    Let me know, please

    November 29, 2014 at 5:52 pm #214484
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    Actually, there was only one subsidiary, it was the Sergijus and Indra question. Where S had 55% and 2 years later, acquired a further 25%. The NCI interest in goodwill on original acquisition had been valued at £100000.

    In working out the goodwill, you calculated the NCI as:
    (45% × 1,280,000) + 100000. The 1280000 was the NA @ DOA.

    I just wondered why you had to add both the FV of NCI and proportionate value, when the FV was given or did I misunderstand the question? Thanks.

    November 29, 2014 at 11:23 pm #214551
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    You misunderstood the question! Again, I’m batting blind (very much like the English cricket team in Sri Lanka!) but the question states that the goodwill attributable to the nci is $100,000 so we know the value of the nci investment is their proportionate share + $100,000

    Ok?

    November 30, 2014 at 1:09 am #214557
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    I see what you mean, I did misunderstand. I thought the £100000 was the FV and not their share of the goodwill. Thanks once again and LOL at the English cricket team joke.

    November 30, 2014 at 9:54 am #214668
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    The English cricket team comment was not intended to be a joke! But I suppose that the way the team is currently failing to perform could be classed as (sick) humour

    Good luck next 9th

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