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- June 9, 2016 at 9:48 am #321388
agreed
June 9, 2016 at 10:33 am #321400@gvanca said:
On the income statement side, operating lease charges should be added back.I have just read this on ACCA technical article RELEVANT TO ACCA QUALIFICATION PAPER P5. So we were correct to add operating lease charge back
Awesome – thanks!
June 9, 2016 at 12:42 pm #321440Hi
For Q1 part D) i kno dat it had asked for ROCE calculation but i dont think so if it asked for any suggestion for measures?
Can you or anyone please confirm because i dont remember the suggestion part to this question.Many thanks in advance
June 9, 2016 at 12:45 pm #321442@rushzer said:
Much better paper especially in terms of timing and examiner has probably understood the previous papers were a bit too long to finish within 180 mins.1.
a) Performance Evaluation – 14 m
b) 2 Measures on Rev/ OP sqm – 8 m
c) RI to replace as main measure over Operating Profit Margin – 8 m
d) ROCE Calculation and suggestion of another techniques (New Store) – 8 m
e) Loyalty Programme/ IS Benefits – 8 m
f) Structure of Answer – 4 m2.
a) BPR and 3 Initiative Evaluation – 14 m
b) Reward System Evaluation – 11 m4.
a) EVA Calculations for B/G – 10 m
b) EVA for Divisional Performance – 7 m
c) Value Based Management – 8 mHi
For Q1 part D) i kno dat it had asked for ROCE calculation but i dont think so if it asked for any suggestion for measures?
Can you or anyone please confirm because i dont remember the suggestion part to this question.Many thanks in advance
June 9, 2016 at 1:54 pm #321456Guys, has anyone used Mckinsey 7s in evaluation of BPR? E.g. bpr effect on systems was …, on staff-… and so on
June 9, 2016 at 2:42 pm #321468AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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what about the ROCE calculation, I think I have 33% which is above the target roce of 30%
June 9, 2016 at 2:46 pm #321469@ raja
Hi,
the requirement was not to suggest alternative measures but to asses the use of expected ROCE as a tool for decision – making
June 9, 2016 at 2:48 pm #321470@AmaraFofanah said:
what about the ROCE calculation, I think I have 33% which is above the target roce of 30%I think you mean 13% was the target ROCE and I got for the Medium and High demand a higher ROCE, but for the Low demand, a lower value
June 9, 2016 at 2:50 pm #321472I used 7s McKinsey in evaluation BPR as well.
EVA both negatives. No adjustments to CE.June 9, 2016 at 4:34 pm #321538AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@Alexandra said:
I think you mean 13% was the target ROCE and I got for the Medium and High demand a higher ROCE, but for the Low demand, a lower value.Am sorry it was 13% the targeted ROCE I got 13.3% more than the target as we have to add all the three possible outcome.
June 9, 2016 at 5:37 pm #321590Also the commentary for ROCE calculation was not required instead the examiner only requires comments on the use of expected values.
What was the possible answer for BPR question’s part II ?
June 9, 2016 at 6:28 pm #321650I applied Mckinsey 7s model to evaluate how BPR affected systems, staff, skills, etc., and in each area tried to propose new performance metrics or at least comment on possible issues, e.g. possible conflicts due to downgrade of supervisors
update: sorry, did not notice you asked about the 2 part. I did not do it due to lack of time, shame
June 9, 2016 at 6:37 pm #321660WACC for EVA was definitely 11%. The cost of debt was already post tax so it did not need to be adjusted (1-t). Ratio of Debt to Equity was 1:3 so 25%: 75%.
Adjusting the Capital Employed figure….. the movement on the provision in the year should have been added back.
I ended up with one negative and one positive EVA for the divisions.
Also noted they had two different rates for depreciation, so add back Book value of Dep’n, less economic dep’n.
Fairly sure I would have at least 1 or 2 things wrong in that calculation. Surprised it was worth 10 marks though, as it didnt seem to need narrative (description of results was next question)
June 9, 2016 at 7:35 pm #321702Q1- part a- analysis of report that was gud alot to write but some of my friends forget to link it with boards problem of short-ism
Part 2 was little confussing so first i calculate both ratios and then disscuss it on both negative n positive way
Part 3 was also easy so i write alot
Part 4 i calculate Roce then make a chart of probabilties and compare it with targeted also comment
Part 5 was also easy i linked it with companys goals and write alotQ4 part a- calculate but i got positive npv and calulation of wacc is not gud i thnk how ever i explain all exemptions
Part b was awsome
Part c was okQ3 time was only 20 min left so i didnt attempt this question that gud just main points 🙁
June 9, 2016 at 7:41 pm #321708Yup i thnk its just to calculate roce for three probabilties available taking there revue divided by same capital employed
Then apply probabilties and compare with targetedJune 9, 2016 at 11:17 pm #321786How did you guys calculate the expected ROCE?
I did it like this:
Multiplied each operating margin and revenue with their respective probabilities to calculate the expected values, then applied that expected margin to the revenue to calculate the operating profit. Then the usual calculation…of ROCE
June 10, 2016 at 4:09 am #321808Well yes, in the case it was mentioned that CEO is expecting comments to such measures.
June 10, 2016 at 10:21 am #321908Does anyone know when will be published the answers of the exam paper?
Thanks
June 10, 2016 at 10:33 am #321910toughest exam I have ever attempted in all my ACCA sittings. even tougher than P4 and P2. Question 2 on BPR was a very technical paper and required an open approach beyond the presented scenario. question one was time consuming to be able to evaluate divisional performance.
I wonder to see your comments on the ease of the exam while it was a dead attempt to me. Praying for a pass mark though!!!!!!June 10, 2016 at 11:39 am #321957It was a doable paper although time pressured. it was my third attempt and still am not sure of a pass. To become an affiliate I need to pass P5 and P7. Am not sure I passed this P5 so I will study P7 between now and September. When results are out next month, I will know whether I do both or just P7 in September.
June 10, 2016 at 6:47 pm #322164AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Woo.. I can’t really wait for results to come out.. July seems too far. I wish results were coming out next week. Iam keeping my fingers crossed.
I only attempted 75%. Iam really upset. Time really did me bad…June 10, 2016 at 8:53 pm #322222AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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The exam was not bad this time. I think I was able to write better answers this time around.
June 11, 2016 at 4:12 pm #322420AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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The question was to comment on the report, so need to comment on the company performance except waste of time.
June 12, 2016 at 2:36 pm #322591AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Question 1(i) was about the discussion of the performance report in Appendix 1
June 13, 2016 at 3:55 am #322665I got the positive EVAs, i guess this is wrong as it is likely every one got negative ones, but i dont know how so…the most costly expense was the operating expenses and i was wondering if those are cash or non-cash exps..I wrote an assumption that those exp would be non-cash to add them back in EVAs, which partly made my EVAs positive….anyway, i hope the marker doesnt put it as a negative point :((..This time i finished all other questions so i hope those would help to make me 50 mark pass …Finger crossed!!
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