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- December 9, 2015 at 10:43 am #289510December 9, 2015 at 11:32 am #289559
How you guys feel? I think it’s disaster!!!!
December 9, 2015 at 1:51 pm #289602Same, don’t think it went well at all, flunked on the EVA calculation and was horrendously time pressured – chose questions 3 & 4 as I felt they were the “easiest” but when pen came to paper it was a lot more difficult than expected.
How did everyone else find it?
December 9, 2015 at 2:56 pm #289639I agree.,.,.,. total disaster! I did question 3 and 4, just kept waffling on… even I wasnt confident I was answering the questions. I’ll be surprised if I scrape up to 50 marks to pass this.
December 9, 2015 at 3:09 pm #289651Massively time pressured, each requirement seemed to have two to three parts to it!
Q4 seemed ok until you started working on it
I liked Q3
December 9, 2015 at 4:02 pm #289667Also did Q3 and Q4. Q4 seemed ok at first glance but when I had to start answering my mind was BLANK. The requirements were very ambiguous for me. My feeling is that I wrote a lot but mostly rubbish…not really answering the questions.
December 9, 2015 at 4:11 pm #289677Totally agree. Q3 was ok, all the others – awful. I tried several times to understand what is required and how to interpret the scenario, but still think that I did not answer the questions. Dissatisfied(((
December 9, 2015 at 4:21 pm #289710Complete disaster 🙁 I attempted q2 and q3. But still think every question was horrible
December 9, 2015 at 4:23 pm #289714difficult paper
December 9, 2015 at 4:27 pm #289717It was horrible, especially the question with Transfer pricing.I guess I lost the whole 25 marks on that question(((
December 9, 2015 at 4:28 pm #289719@mo993 said:
Same, don’t think it went well at all, flunked on the EVA calculation and was horrendously time pressured – chose questions 3 & 4 as I felt they were the “easiest” but when pen came to paper it was a lot more difficult than expected.How did everyone else find it?
I also was a bit confused with EVA calculation. Recalculated EVA was higher than it was calculated by junior. I got 257 or sth like this
December 9, 2015 at 4:29 pm #289721@relena88 said:
Also did Q3 and Q4. Q4 seemed ok at first glance but when I had to start answering my mind was BLANK. The requirements were very ambiguous for me. My feeling is that I wrote a lot but mostly rubbish…not really answering the questions.The same feeling. I wrote a lot, but I guess most of it was meaningless(
December 9, 2015 at 4:30 pm #289723@n.nadiradze said:
Complete disaster 🙁 I attempted q2 and q3. But still think every question was horribleI also attempted Q2 and Q3. But Q2 was the most awful question I have ever met(
December 9, 2015 at 4:32 pm #289726I think many of us’ initial thought was that Porter 5 forces is a nice present untill they started reading the scenario and the question itself. Oh boy this Examiner has an imagination to put such an unusual an awkward industry like events company! I always thought 5 porter is my strenght but this question revealed to be the most difficult to me.
I agree some questions were like watching Inception (the movie) it was like a question in a question in question where the word and… and… and kept repeating on and on.
Really not that much of calculation part for this paper. Unusual EVA approach in question and small calculations for the question with trains.
Overall I think it was a fair exam however highly time pressured and extremely unusual (for me) event industry !
Probably I was waffling too much so expecting mid/high 40’s fail
December 9, 2015 at 4:33 pm #289727What a disaster…going into the exam,I told myself I will ignore transfer price if it comes in optional questions and that’s what I did.
I did Q 3 and 4…(I passed question 1 and 3)
But 10 minutes into question 4,I realized I had zero idea what was required…I spent another 5 minutes trying to unpack it but NO..
Then I started warming up to transfer pricing with only 25 min to go..
I ended up just cleaning up Q 1 and 3 as I had no idea what was required in q4.
wish I had chosen the transfer price question because I could have at least got 7 marks..but I realized that too late in the examOh ..what al disaster indeed..
December 9, 2015 at 4:36 pm #289731Flexi i did it as well. I was 100% sure Transfer Pricing will come up – i just only prayed it wont be in compulsory Q1.
So for me was clear cut to ignore Q2. Ended up with waffling in Q4…
December 9, 2015 at 4:40 pm #289734@agrigoryan said:
The same feeling. I wrote a lot, but I guess most of it was meaningless(I got $221 on EVA but the easy marks where in picking out what was wrong and what was right as you were asked to evaluate.whatever the correct Eva ..highly unlikely to get 15 out of 15 but very likely to get over 10 marks for pointing out what was wrong and what was right.
December 9, 2015 at 4:40 pm #289735I started on question 2 cos I thought “ah transfer pricing, this I have revised and I know fairly well” but man once I got into the nuts and bolts of it it was awful but it was too late, I was already committed.
Then I did question 3 which restored my faith a bit…. If it was as bad as q2 I might have just packed up and gone home.
Q1 I answered all the bits in report format
Hopefully enough done cox I really have no appetite to do it again, my hand was aching.
It really is impossible to formulate quality analysis in the time alotted…. Just firing stuff down as fast as possible. Joke
December 9, 2015 at 4:48 pm #289754@flexi said:
I got $221 on EVA but the easy marks where in picking out what was wrong and what was right as you were asked to evaluate.whatever the correct Eva ..highly unlikely to get 15 out of 15 but very likely to get over 10 marks for pointing out what was wrong and what was right.From my most odd comments re EVA were:
– R&D should have been adjusted to Profit and also included in capital employed
– Capital employed opening balance should have been taken
-Inconsistency between operating lease;40, while in capital employed 115, given 4 years-I think I was mistaken here
– Post-tax interest charge was not added back
– in calculation of WACC post-tax cost of debt whould have been taken, which gave 4.7%
– some comments about economic depreciation and replacement costs of assets, although there was no info in the question
-also discussed other assumptions used in teh calculationDecember 9, 2015 at 4:51 pm #289755@rogermellie said:
I started on question 2 cos I thought “ah transfer pricing, this I have revised and I know fairly well” but man once I got into the nuts and bolts of it it was awful but it was too late, I was already committed.Then I did question 3 which restored my faith a bit…. If it was as bad as q2 I might have just packed up and gone home.
Q1 I answered all the bits in report format
Hopefully enough done cox I really have no appetite to do it again, my hand was aching.
It really is impossible to formulate quality analysis in the time alotted…. Just firing stuff down as fast as possible. Joke
The same commitment with Q2 made me feel frustrated(( Q3 was fair but still not sure that I managed to earn the acceptable threshold. Praying for 50 marks
December 9, 2015 at 4:53 pm #289756– in calculation of WACC post-tax cost of debt whould have been taken, which gave 4.7%
– some comments about economic depreciation and replacement costs of assets, although there was no info in the question
-also discussed other assumptions used in teh calculationYes another interesting one was the gearing..in the assumptions it said 100% but in the calculation they used 50:50…so I went with the 50:50 as it made sense and do the tax adjustment on the cost of debt which was not done in the question
December 9, 2015 at 4:55 pm #289761I also assumed 50:50 was ok and moved on although not sure if correct..
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scraping a 50 would be a miracle
December 9, 2015 at 5:10 pm #289775Did anyone get negative EVA after assuming 100% debt to equity means multiplying by 100% as opposed to 50%? Or have i got this horribly wrong and love marks for having a much lower recalculated EVA?
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