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  • December 6, 2013 at 10:16 am #151018
    dorian1990
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    Cazza99 – I did exactly the same for the performance gap. I also agree that the transferring of the marketing costs made no different to the overall profit of the company. I had Plan A missing the performance target and Plan B exceeding the target.

    I answered Questions 3 & 4. I had a blank on the performance pyramid, otherwise I would have done question2.

    I also think that time management/exam technique was key in this exam, I hadn’t realised that variable costs was in units at first, so I had to re-calculate the first requirement in Q1, so I was playing catch-up from the start. I gave myself 1h15 for section B and managed to finish in time.

    This was my first attempt at P5, so I’m hopeful that I’ve done enough to pass! I have P2 on Tuesday so I must get back to the books.

    December 6, 2013 at 10:35 am #151025
    soulhackerrr
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    I think I did plan A like this
    (1120X400x1.04) + (440x700x1.04) = total Revenue 786240
    (1120x225x1.04) + (440x325x1.04)=variable costs ( 410800)
    Fixed costs (240000)
    Operating profit 135440
    Thus Plan A would lead to favorable performance gap and would meet the target

    can anyone check this and find any mistakes i did in the variable costs can any one confirm were the variable costs 225 or 255

    December 6, 2013 at 10:42 am #151031
    Anonymous
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    did q1a asked for the calculations only…or as wel as the performance analysis basing on those calculated KPI’S? please someone remind me.

    December 6, 2013 at 11:05 am #151035
    cazza99
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    @soulhackerr

    1120 & 440 i assume is your units? ( i used the 1.12m & 0.44m in that form)
    400/700? Sales price?

    Only thing i can see that i would disagree with is that it was over 2 years so you would need to do x1.04×1.04 to get to final totals
    However, my Plan A came up quite short @$105m or $110m but then i just used contribution instead of recalcing the rev & costs…….

    December 6, 2013 at 11:18 am #151037
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    Guys, for Q3 – The hospital group – did anyone take the approach that this was the Fitzgerald and Moon model? Part (a) was looking for ways in which the new RFID system would effect performance management and was 12 marks. I decided that he was looking for the 6 Dimensions @ 2 marks each – Financial Performance, Competitiveness, Resource Utilisation, Quality of Service, Innovation & Flexibility? Didn’t know what to write for the leaner objectives in part (b) then for part (c) where he asked about the attitude of staff to the new system and how it could improve accountability/responsibility – I thought this was the Standards/Rules part of F&M’s building blocks – Acceptability, Ownership and Equity. This seemed right considering the disputes between different levels of staff… I was sure I was onto the right track using this model but haven’t seen a single post from anyone on this or other forums stating that they used this so now I’m thinking I was waaaay off :S

    Anyone else take this approach??

    December 6, 2013 at 11:22 am #151038
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    My calcs……………..

    Current
    sales units 1.12 0.44
    Price 400 700
    Var cost -255 -325
    Contr per unit 145 375

    Fixed cost -120 -120
    Total rev 162.4 165
    less Fixed cost -120 -120
    Profit 42.4 45 87.4

    PLAN A
    sales units 1.21 0.48
    Price 400 700
    Var cost -255 -325
    Contr per unit 145 375

    Fixed cost -120 -120
    Total rev 176 178
    less Fixed cost -120 -120
    Profit 56 58 114

    PLAN B
    sales units 1.12 0.58
    Price 400 700
    Var cost -255 -325
    Contr per unit 145 375

    Fixed cost -120 -120
    Total rev 162 218
    less Fixed cost -120 -120
    Profit 42 98 141

    December 6, 2013 at 11:25 am #151039
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    that looks funny but it should be columns with Product C then product P reading across

    December 6, 2013 at 12:57 pm #151059
    diegojuin
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    There was this short way (but may be I am wrong ?)

    Plan A => Additionnal profit
    (1.120.000 *1,04*1,04-1.120.000)* Contr per unit 145 + (440.000 *1,04*1,04-440.000)* Contr per unit 375
    = 91.392 * 145 + 35.904 * 375
    =26.7 M
    Hence total profit 26.7 M + 87,4 M= 114,1 M < 135 M

    Plan B => Additionnal profit
    (440.000 *1,15*1,15-440.000)* Contr per unit 375
    = 141.900 * 375
    =53.2 M
    Hence total profit 53,2 M + 87,4 M= 140,6 M > 135 M

    December 6, 2013 at 1:13 pm #151065
    cazza99
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    effectively the same as mine – Maybe we’re both right?

    December 6, 2013 at 1:27 pm #151067
    diegojuin
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    I think it is right…May be ! 🙂

    December 6, 2013 at 1:57 pm #151076
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    Almost identical answer, one change was I split the marketing costs to 40 -120 ratio as that is what the question suggested (drastic marketing spend cut on cheerful).
    The GAP measurement in unchanged by that but I thought there might be 1 point for that and in this paper every point counts 🙂

    December 6, 2013 at 3:15 pm #151102
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    https://www.accaglobal.com/content/dam/acca/global/PDF-students/acca/p5/exampapers/p5-2013-dec-q.pdf
    Paper link

    December 6, 2013 at 3:31 pm #151109
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    I quite liked the RFID question but it was a killer on how to measure.

    I can’t remember what I put but thinking back it should have been something like
    get the drugs quicker
    Prevents assets going missing
    frees up capital
    reduces arguments among staff
    easier to trace theft
    easier to analyse which departments are performing

    It was a real tricky one, do-able but painful overall i thought not impossible but painful really hope I have passed as I am pretty sure I failed P6 today, was an awful paper.

    December 6, 2013 at 4:31 pm #151124
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    @needs to pass

    Can you remember which parts to allocate marks to for questions in p6? Also which question did you do?

    December 6, 2013 at 6:04 pm #151237
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    Lets just pray altogether to get a pass.. Hopefully.. I am done with ACCA

    December 6, 2013 at 8:36 pm #151316
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    Hope so.. As well.. I m too tired in the list..

    December 7, 2013 at 3:25 pm #151507
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    My workings showed neither would cover the gap however one would reduce the losses.

    December 8, 2013 at 8:40 am #151597
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    Same results as mine. Plan B should be chosen, but wrote little about performance gap

    December 9, 2013 at 3:24 am #151731
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    not too bad

    December 9, 2013 at 9:21 am #151757
    LADY RAT
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    i hope the markers will understand my answers and match them to what they are expecting. under exams pressure, things happen differently….wishing myself goodluck.

    December 9, 2013 at 9:34 am #151759
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    I would assume that there would be 1 mark for definition of performance GAP/GAP Analysis and possibly another mark for the mention of say Ansoff Matrix and a generic method of reducing the GAP or even drawing a graph.

    Then another mark for linking the GAP with the strategy and how to reduce/maintain the GAP with the mention of brand being important to charging higher prices and all that for the Posh model.

    Overall what did people think of the paper, fair but challenging?

    December 9, 2013 at 1:32 pm #151787
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    that was my first attempt. had only 15 minutes for the question 4 on league tables. only praying for a 50+ . I guess time was too short to have fully answered all the questions. maybe i spent too much time on question one.

    the first marketing strategy resulted in below the operating profit target of 135m but the second strategy was going to beat the target. hope i got that right.

    the selling prices were $400 and $700 for Cheerful and Posh respectively

    December 9, 2013 at 2:32 pm #151798
    paula brooks
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    Oh dear. The question asked for Lynch and Cross’s Pyramid not Fitzgerald and Moon’s building blocks. Lynch and Cross’s pyramid has for levels:
    1 – Corporate Vision
    2 – Market; Financial
    3 – Customer Satifaction; Flexibility; Production
    4 – Delivery, Quality, Waste, Cycle Time

    December 9, 2013 at 4:16 pm #151821
    star
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    Based on past papers which I practiced, this was not the regular form/ style/ structure of the exam. .
    I am dissapointed at the examiner for not setting an exam more focused on the models which are stressed as being so relevant to paper P5.
    Also, why emphasise that students should learn all these models and how to apply them etc. and the entire Q1 then comes on CSF’s and PI’s. (for 50 marks)?

    December 12, 2013 at 7:17 am #152660
    Fizza
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    Question 1 can be considered as the easiest among the other three. Lots of KPIs and commenting and forming evaluation staying in time and format. Just hope to get a good 30 + then can expect to Pass.
    Last part i calculated as taking the profits as calculated in first part and bringing to future value of 2 years once with 4 % and 15 %. Then calculating the gap as the difference and stating tht second plan is closer and strategies can be applied to close the Gap

    Second question was also okay with a easy structured model Performance Pyramid could write enough to gain good marks. and with explaining the three terms and relating to scenario which was clearly given. Although in myopio and gaming, i think i have switched the scenario stories.

    Third Question was worst with i dont know what i have written in each part just trying to relate my knowledge with scenario and forming some answers.
    a) Going through scenario stated problems and resolutions with some management acc terms.
    b) Stated what lean accounting is and then evaluated (goods and bads) whether this RFID would result in leaner or not.
    Tried putting rewards, budgeting, consultationg general points in last part of this question.

    Question 4 on the first sight didnt like it (didnt do this one)

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