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*** P4 December 2015 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

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  • This topic has 137 replies, 53 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by jeffrey1989.
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  • December 13, 2015 at 10:13 pm #291571
    Anonymous
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    Can’t remember all parts of Q1 question:
    1) Sale-off vs MBI (4 pts)
    2) Calculations (18 pts)
    3) Assumptions (8 pts?)
    4) Shareholders rights (8 pts?)
    5) Professional marks (4 pts)
    and what else? There should be one more question

    December 14, 2015 at 1:18 am #291624
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    discussion on CEO defense strategy

    December 14, 2015 at 5:53 am #291631
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    this was the most difficult paper that I wrote since starting my ACCA journey.

    December 14, 2015 at 7:44 am #291641
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    oh my god..realized my Q3(a) answer was wrong!! The hedging should be sell euro right? I answered buy euro..does anyone know will I get any mark out of the total 13 marks?
    SO SAD..

    December 14, 2015 at 8:26 am #291644
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    .

    December 14, 2015 at 8:28 am #291645
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    @weih said:
    oh my god..realized my Q3(a) answer was wrong!! The hedging should be sell euro right? I answered buy euro..does anyone know will I get any mark out of the total 13 marks?
    SO SAD..

    Relax! Even if you didn’t reach the right answer or make the right recommendation, the examiners score you on everything you do… from structure to calculations.

    If you’ve manged to show on paper what you were thinking and what your process was then you will only lose a small proportion for not giving the correct answer or recommendation with 100% accuracy.

    Bottom line, there are partial marks for everything that you do correctly… if you leave the answer space blank then that’s another story.

    December 14, 2015 at 10:49 am #291683
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    Vasabk, that’s also what I did, got a similar answer so I am glad to see someone else didn’t get 9%.

    Where I went wrong was I used the FCF model to calculate the value of the company using the P&L figures plus adjustments to sales, operating profit and WC provide. Everyone seems to have used the PE ratio method.

    Over all it was ok. Question 2 was good so I hope I score high there and make up for the rest in the other 2 questions. There were some good theory questions as part C’s and D’s.

    Best of luck everyone.

    December 14, 2015 at 11:38 am #291692
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    I think in part b the R&D and manufacturing divisions should not be separated as C was to buy the whole company and not an individual division at first. After the acquisition C was going to separate the divisions and the relevant question concerning this was something about whether demerger was better than a sell of

    December 14, 2015 at 2:39 pm #291735
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    If you did what Jordanlyo said wacc is 9
    If you did what Vasabks said wacc is 14

    We must wait and see what examiner wants…
    But both will gain marks

    That is why it is said that P4 questions donot have one correct answers(because of different assumptions)

    Let us wait…

    December 14, 2015 at 8:23 pm #291795
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    https://www.accaglobal.com/content/dam/ACCA_Global/Students/prof/p4/Exam%20docs/d15_hybrid_p4_q.pdf

    December 15, 2015 at 12:55 pm #291862
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    Did anyone complete the entire Q2? What was NPV in a) – positive/negative?

    December 15, 2015 at 2:59 pm #291882
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    Jeffrey, bro thats the right thing to do. Atlest that’s what i wanted to do for qs1.

    U hav to split btwn those 2 and then add the the other divisions value which u get after adjusting the p.e as stated in the scenior.

    Man i screwed this qs.. i didn’t do that. I just forgot or rather didn’t hav confidence.

    So i didn’t split, neither did i get the sale value. And further more i didn’t even deduct from the total value the debt value to get the equity value.

    So i don’t knw hw much out of 18 will i get.

    Then qs 2. Silly mistakes.. man i discounted at the real cost of capital.

    I had even inflated the sales and variable cost. For some reason myb bcz i was running out of time.. i didn’t infalte the workign capital and the resale value. And discounted using real cost of capital.
    Again I hope the examiner doesn’t penalise me more than 4 or 5 marks man.. otheriwse m doomed.

    Then qs 3.. silly blunder. Forgot the underhedge in the options.

    Oh man ! The theory’s of the exam i didn’t knw alot. Was relying on the calculations.

    Now don’t knw what’s gonna happen.

    December 15, 2015 at 10:59 pm #291930
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    @vasabk said:
    I got WACC of approx 14% in Q1
    I used the following steps at arriving at this:
    1) ungear C’s beta equity to arrive at C asset beta
    2) weight asset betas of both companies (C and A) to receive combined asset beta as instructed in question
    3) re-gear combined asset beta to arrive at combined equity beta
    4) using CAPM receive Ke
    5) using pre-tax cost of debt 6% of combined Co receive WACC at approx. 14% (ratio of 40:60 holds after business combination)
    6) this WACC was used to discount potential synergy (tax&lay offs)

    Why so many people here write that they got 9%?

    This was the exact thing I did…! Still not sure if its the right way!

    December 16, 2015 at 11:48 am #291977
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    @nati said:
    https://www.accaglobal.com/content/dam/ACCA_Global/Students/prof/p4/Exam%20docs/d15_hybrid_p4_q.pdf

    So… Q1 & Q4 of September 2015, and Q2 & Q3 from December 2015 will be lost forever?

    December 16, 2015 at 12:02 pm #291980
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    same here. cant even understand it up to now

    December 18, 2015 at 11:08 am #292121
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    guys does anyone remember answer of que 3 part b that was related to derivatives.i just wrote its defination and and then wrote exchange detivatives and over the the counter

    December 18, 2015 at 5:20 pm #292135
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    For me, it was very difficult to ascertain what the examiner was asking for, but I wrote something, I do not know if it will be suitable for the examiner. Can you remind me of how many parts question three (3) has, and the mark for each part? I don’t remember.

    December 18, 2015 at 5:42 pm #292137
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    I messed up the option section for question three (3). It was suppose to be €20.56million multiply by the option rate, not divide. Then to find the number of contracts you divide the €20.56 million by €125000. I divide this 20.56 by the option price and then divide the result€125000. I believe this is incorrect. Additionally, did anyone noticed it is a call option?

    December 18, 2015 at 6:12 pm #292141
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    Hey gays
    as everyone post that in question no 3 we buy or sell future
    but according to my thinking we have to calculate lock in rate to calculate the acutal amount
    same information like in Past paper risk question Coca
    same data is available link in Past paper
    https://www.accaglobal.com/content/dam/acca/global/PDF-students/acca/p4/exampapers/P4-2014-june-q.pdf
    same data in this paper Company has to receive
    and examiner use Lock in rate
    then how can you all candidtes use buy or sell
    because there is no spot rate at the transaction date

    December 18, 2015 at 7:10 pm #292144
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    Yeah exactly. Bcz there was no future spot rate.

    And just for clarity purposes. I got the lock in rate by deducting the basis from the future’s price. Since my futures price was higher than my current spot rate.

    December 18, 2015 at 7:14 pm #292147
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    According to my concept, a call is the right t BUY the underlying asset and put is to SELL.

    We were receiving € and were in the usa($). The contract was in €.

    So therefore you wud only SELL € TO BUY $.

    Thus being a PUT option.

    Well atlest that what i did.

    December 18, 2015 at 8:25 pm #292149
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    q 3 had 3 parts.part a13 marks part b 5 marks and last part for 7 marks

    December 18, 2015 at 9:13 pm #292151
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    Muhammad’s, when you are seeking the benefit of an higher rate it is a call and when you are seeking the benefit of a lower rate it is a put

    December 18, 2015 at 9:14 pm #292152
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    Thank you Tayyab

    December 18, 2015 at 9:25 pm #292154
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    Well let me correct myself. When you are seeking more the benefit of more US dollar amount it should be a call and if it were a payment you would be seeking to pay a lower amount in US

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