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- June 13, 2011 at 3:39 pm #79856
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it says “please” write in black, i wrote the front page in black but did the answers in blue. its a simple error, wouldnt be too worried. id say half the students wrote in blue and im fairly sure i wrote in blue before.
overall an ok exam, time pressure really, after an hour and half, just get off q1. q2 was ok, q4 a bit dodgy in b & c. had one look at q3 – no thanks. coulda been a lot worse. its over now anyway – P3 on wed 🙁
June 13, 2011 at 3:41 pm #79857I put CEO pre, kathy & accountant conv. I said the whistleblower would have been post. Even though I thought they may have kathy as post (one each) my reasoning was that she let the production of a faulty fuel tank go ahead. The question did not say CEO made that decision. Not sure if it’s right!
For a) did any1 use the committies as internal controls?
Also was the letter from the CEO? What things did everyone write for (i) his actios
June 13, 2011 at 3:43 pm #79858Anonymous
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the paper was general all d way.all the stuff was given in the scenario.regarding kohlberg i stated ceo pre kathy con and vim post.i dunno i m right?
June 13, 2011 at 3:44 pm #79859Anonymous
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@irenakg said:
Kohlberg: Pre-convantional, conventional and post-conventional model for moral reasoning. Accountant-pre-conv, CEO-conventional and Kathy post-conventional.
That was my answer anyway!James Tsakos – pre conventional stage 2 : clearly bcos of self interest
bonus based on profit partlyKathy Yao – when she follow orders of Tsakos, she is in stage 1 of pre conven
scared of punishment from Tsakoswhen she suggest universal recall…it’s post conven stage6 driven by self ethical principle
Finance director- I argue either stage 2 bcos he oso benefit from bonus or stage 6 as his own ethical principle is tat shareholder’s wealth is most important
June 13, 2011 at 3:47 pm #79860Anonymous
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@liverpool05 said:
I put CEO pre, kathy & accountant conv. I said the whistleblower would have been post. Even though I thought they may have kathy as post (one each) my reasoning was that she let the production of a faulty fuel tank go ahead. The question did not say CEO made that decision. Not sure if it’s right!For a) did any1 use the committies as internal controls?
Also was the letter from the CEO? What things did everyone write for (i) his actios
thought they asked finance director ? not whistleblower?
i said set up audit committee as the safety testing reporting line is to Board
not independent? not sure acceptableJune 13, 2011 at 3:50 pm #79861Anonymous
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June 13, 2011 at 3:54 pm #79862Anonymous
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@richieoctober, thanks, just hope that they dont mark it down because i think i wrote enough to pass, eventhough my hand is now dead!! P3 for me on wednesday aswell….WILL be writing in black this time!
For Kohlberg i did CEO and FD both pre because they were both acting out of their own self interests and had no moral code and kathy as con.
June 13, 2011 at 3:59 pm #79863Anonymous
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I found the paper very very easy. I was surprised it was so easy. No time management issues finished 15 mins early wrote a lot, used two extra sets of booklets.
June 13, 2011 at 4:26 pm #79864Two extra- wow you can write fast!’
I explained the levels as well so should pick up marks there. I used the whisleblower just as an example of level 3.
Hopefully passed, though I didn’t finish one booklet so hopefully wrote enough. Most of the questions seemed ok. Hoping for 50+
P3 Wed
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@richieoctober said:
it says “please” write in black, i wrote the front page in black but did the answers in blue. its a simple error, wouldnt be too worried. id say half the students wrote in blue and im fairly sure i wrote in blue before.overall an ok exam, time pressure really, after an hour and half, just get off q1. q2 was ok, q4 a bit dodgy in b & c. had one look at q3 – no thanks. coulda been a lot worse. its over now anyway – P3 on wed 🙁
Your answer paper will be scanned and scanner doesn’t pick up every blue pen..if pen is light-ish blue.. the marker might not be able to see the writing clearly.
Just try to write something in thin blue pen and scan it… mine doesn’t always show up.June 13, 2011 at 4:27 pm #79866Also did people write about NEDs as a control in 1a?
June 13, 2011 at 4:42 pm #79867Anonymous
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The test was fairly straightforward in my opinion.First part was simple i believe. From the second part i have chosen questions 3 and 4 as i could elaborate more on answers. Hope for the magic 50. Good luck to all guys
June 13, 2011 at 4:45 pm #79868Anonymous
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i think CEO – Post – Conventional (because of his thoughts about the shareholders wealth) where the scenario said about the decision taken there was for the board NOT HIM.
Kathy – Conventional (somewhere at the last line of her paragraphs was to comply with the laws and regulations)
Vin – Pre-Conventional (because of his reward on the bonus scheme)June 13, 2011 at 4:46 pm #79869Anonymous
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the question was not referring to whistle blower. ceo kathy and necrim.wow guys read the requirements next time more carefully
June 13, 2011 at 4:51 pm #79870Anonymous
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i think ceo – pre because he don’t think about any social issues only bonus, shareholders wealth. In this case accident will continue
vin – conv. cuz he understand legal issues like ‘law and order’. To make repayments or recall but he don’t understand any CSR issue
kathy – post, cuz she think about reputatuion and CSR for safety.June 13, 2011 at 5:02 pm #79871Anonymous
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The question with moral development was
CEO was considering the financial issues -pre-convetional level as hes considering own benefit.Kathys opinion was tha company had a brand of corporate and social responsibily , owed a duty to society and etc. conventional level as this level decision are taken based on what is expected by society and in accordance with societys values norms and beliefs.
Necrim was considering the bosunes that directos are being paid that based on annual profits and that option 1 would be to coslty about 750 million ,. This strongly indicates that is pre-convetional level
June 13, 2011 at 5:02 pm #79872the paper is said to be okay, it is all about ethics and internal control. One other thing i have notice is that the examiner are taking us to the basic. Meaning we should always try to refresh some related issues from our past studies, example, asking for the difference between AGM’s and EGM’s.
I think the whole paper is really application of what we have been taught and the use of common sense.June 13, 2011 at 5:32 pm #79873Hi, guys!
What did u have for internal control measures? I stuck with the Q and start writing about control awareness, responsive ICS and so on. After finishing Q1 I saw requirement about risk awareness in Q2! I think that my answer for Q1 about internal control measures was completely wrong (((June 13, 2011 at 5:36 pm #79874I think the CEO was @ post conventional because he was imposing his view that there shudnt be disclosure—can link to to pristine capitalist to understand…
June 13, 2011 at 5:38 pm #79875Was a good paper hope i have written enough to pass. My downfall was time management as i was not able to complete all the questions fully but i attempted all of them.
June 13, 2011 at 5:41 pm #79876Anonymous
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Firstly, good luck to everyone…it was quite a manageable paper in my opinion and I am looking for the magical 50!
In regards to the Kohlberg question, my answer was:
CEO – Level 1 Stage 2, as his actions were based primarily on not upsetting the shareholders (ie, not paying out huge amounts to customers hence being able to pay dividends) and to maintain a good reputation. You can argue that he has done this to reinforce his credentials as a CEO.
Kathy Yao – Level 3 Stage 5, as she has suggested that they re-call the cars, showing an ethical stance based on basic values. I did not think this is worth a level 3 stage 6 as her actions didnt seem strong enough to merit this. On the subject of the board deciding to carry on production of the cars despite the flaw in the tank, I argued that she may have raised this issue and tryed to stop production, but the board may have overruled her (as this was not clearly presented in the text).
Vim – Could be either Level 1 Stage 2 – to keep the CEO happy and recommend the more beneficial option or indeed Level 2 Stage 1 – to support the beliefs of his fellow board members and agree to the compensation package.
Again, good luck everyone!
June 13, 2011 at 5:41 pm #79877Kathy took social expectations in to consideration therefore she is operating at the conventional level…isnt it?
June 13, 2011 at 5:42 pm #79878Anonymous
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does any1 confirm me in word ACCA ,first A stands 4??? is it Associate or Assosiation, what is used in our degree
plz tell me immeditely
June 13, 2011 at 5:44 pm #79879Anonymous
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@qaqsingh
same answer by me
June 13, 2011 at 6:29 pm #79880Association
What are the 5 ethical threats please?
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