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- October 11, 2020 at 10:47 am #588589
Hello Gillian. I hope you are doing well. Can you please tell me the rules on resubmission? I do not have time to go through the detailed info pack right now. I shall be grateful.Thank you.
October 11, 2020 at 3:40 pm #588640Uruba – there is a shorter Resubmission Guide so please refer to that – the document can be downloaded using the following link
https://www.brookes.ac.uk/business/undergraduate/bsc-applied-accounting/
October 11, 2020 at 5:09 pm #588647I have to tell the blunder that caused my failure so other students do not do it. I thought my SLS counted 1804 words after I re-edited the document before submission and removed many words thinking 1804 are still left. But now I saw that they were just 1692 in fact. if your word count is lower than 1800, it will be difficult to pass. In my case, I failed.
October 12, 2020 at 4:06 pm #588704I unfortunately got an email a week ago that I failed the project. But the portal still says “unmarked”. My mentor and I were both very surprised – he’d mentioned that my paper was one of the better ones he’s read in his years of mentoring. Not to toot my own horn, but I also thought my paper was well done as I put in a lot of work and effort into it. As I already earned a Bachelor Degree some years ago, albeit not in accounting, I have extensive experience writing research papers and thought that I’d at least be able to pass. All of the requirements and criteria were checked before submission, so I have no idea what could have went wrong. My mentor suspects perhaps I failed the SLS, but I can’t be sure until they release the feedback.
I feel like it’s absolutely ridiculous… even if it’s just the SLS we have to submit another £470, and your grade gets capped at a C. How does this reflect your ability and knowledge of accounting? Of course it could be something else that’s completely my fault, but at this current moment I’m so frustrated. Especially since they’re taking so long to publish the feedback…
October 12, 2020 at 5:39 pm #588712We have a month to the closing date of period 41,those who failed haven’t yet Received feedback in order to help them rectify the issues on time,I really wonder what OBU is thinking about.
There should be absolute remedy to all this mess.otherwise my respect for OBU is fading every other second.
October 12, 2020 at 5:57 pm #588714What the portal says is a red herring and should be ignored – results for P40 were communicated by email.
I understand your frustrations. I had a similar experience in P39 when I felt a student deserved an A for his Topic 17 Corporate Governance RAP [and remember I was a former senior marker, currently assess some MBA dissertations for Brookes so should have a a good ‘handle’ on marking and grading and I have also lectured on Masters courses at Brookes on Corporate Governance, so should know what’s what]! However the student was failed mostly on models
I would suggest that you consult the marker feedback and compare this with the assessment criteria and if you think that the feedback is wrong then appeal via acca@brookes.ac.uk [not the formal process]. All Universities tend to rely on their ‘get out of jail free card’ i.e. that you cannot appeal against academic judgment [even when it is blatantly wrong – see my final paragraph!] and therefore you do need to show that what you are told was lacking in your work was indeed there.
My mentee managed to do that successfully. He was eventually given a pass [a grudging grade C] but fortunately as he only needed a C grade for 1st class honours his degree classification was unaffected.
If you have just failed the SLS and/or Presentation your result will show a fail but the report will have been given a grade and once you pass the SLS and Presentation you will be given that grade – so in that respect it will not be capped as a C [only a previous fail in the report is capped]. [The resubmission fee is GBP 420 as far as I am aware].
BTW the mentee’s feedback showed embarrassingly great ignorance of CG knowledge by the marker as the main reason for fail was that the student had not used US Corporate Governance Codes to evaluate Tesla [instead he had made comparisons with the UK Code as ‘best practice’]. Since the US is rules based there is legislation [Sarbanes Oxley and Dodd Frank] but NO mandatory codes and what Principles are produced are from parties with a vested interest [Business Roundtable and Investor Stewardship Group] – so of limited use for evaluating real weaknesses in CG.
I wish you a successful appeal!
October 12, 2020 at 6:01 pm #588715yes, oesj – if you see my post above I agree that this is an unacceptable state of affairs and has been since P37 – before that students had a more realistic time frame.
Since P37 there have been ongoing problems with the submission portal so students and in particular failed students, are paying the price for someone else’s failings…..
October 13, 2020 at 2:33 pm #588768Ahh, sounds like the marking can be quite inconsistent. I really am baffled by the lack of clarity and “quality control”, for lack of better term. But it’s also comforting to know that my fail result is likely not because I’m a complete idiot.
Would anyone know who you are supposed to email if you still haven’t received the marker’s feedback? The email with the pass/fail result last week said we would be sent a link before the 14th of October, but I still have nothing. Still a couple of hours left in the day, but I’m skeptical. Do we just contact the generic acca@brookes.ac.uk email address?
October 14, 2020 at 11:20 am #588869Has any one gotten marker feedback from OBU,or the frustration is for us all.But what could be the issue?
October 14, 2020 at 3:01 pm #588892I just got my feedback, and it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever! It says that in the SWOT analysis, “a large portion of facts and opinions were unreferenced”. I went over my paper with a fine-tooth comb and ALL facts, even other analyst opinions were referenced. I had a couple of my own conclusions in there as well, but they were minimal and were included to show that I could analyse the situation as well, and not just take what others say at point blank.
This seems to be an absolutely ridiculous reason to me…
October 14, 2020 at 4:51 pm #588896I had a student who once was failed for a similar reason – except in her case it was referencing throughout. The Assessment Criteria at the time [they have since been changed] stated that a fail for referencing would be ‘referencing is mostly absent’. With my experience I went through and counted how many references there were and how many being very strict, there might have been. I think I concluded that the referencing was 73% there. So how could it be ‘mostly absent’?
They wouldn’t accept this – so in effect they were trying to defy and rewrite the basic mathematical concept that 27% could never be greater than 73% and also contravening the Oxford English Dictionary definition of ‘mostly’, maintaining that the smaller quantity which was significantly lower than 50%, met the definition of most….. It all defies common sense and makes the University look ridiculous.
If this were the case in an MBA dissertation submitted to Brookes under their MBA Global programme I could almost guarantee the marker would hardly comment on it and you would have more than likely passed with the grade you overall merited – because a more holistic view of your work would have been taken.
The issue lies with the RAP marking system. The MBA dissertations are marked by two markers simultaneously, with markers producing their individual feedback which they then discuss together and agree a mark by consensus. Whereas the RAP is marked by one person, which is then justified because every fail is reviewed by a senior marker/moderator who can change the grade [in which case the senior moderator will then review the change]. The problem though is that the markers know each other and there is a general reluctance by most of them to ‘rock the boat’ and change many grades, so most of the original grades go through ‘on the nod’.
Notwithstanding this, do appeal – try acca@brookes.ac.uk first though – but expect them to play the ‘out of jail free card’ as they did with my student and still insist that something that could be established objectively [there was nothing to stop them doing a count themselves – which in the interest of justice should have been done] but instead they trotted out the usual defence to any challenge of the marking – it was ‘disagreeing with academic judgment’!
Good luck!
October 17, 2020 at 11:13 pm #589633I got my result withheld and my rap referred to ACO. I am currently in a terrible state of mind after working tirelessly to come up with RAP. When does ACO starts contacting students and is there anyone who has been contacted yet.
November 18, 2020 at 6:34 am #595381Hi. Have you received any feedback from ACO?
November 18, 2020 at 9:56 pm #595501Not yet.
December 8, 2020 at 7:52 am #598294Hi. Any feedback from ACO yet for period 40 ?
December 21, 2020 at 8:04 am #600443Anyone received feedback from ACO for period 40?
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