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  • This topic has 11 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • November 28, 2015 at 9:36 am #285874
    huiwenn
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    greetings. i would like to know when do we need to add fair valuw of NCI plus post profit attributable to NCI in SOPL ? some questions require to add in but some don’t.

    November 28, 2015 at 9:43 am #285876
    MikeLittle
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    If the question is asking for a consolidated statement of profit or loss then there’s no “fair value of nci at date of acquisition” to worry about

    It the question is asking for a consolidated statement of financial position then to arrive at the nci figure we need to take:

    Fair value of nci at date of acquisition +
    Nci share of subsidiary post-acquisition retained earnings –
    The nci share of goodwill impaired since acquisition

    Ok?

    November 28, 2015 at 10:25 am #285878
    huiwenn
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    there were two example from BPP’s revision kit. no.28 require SOPL, so they did not calculate fair value of NCI but for no.29 require SOPL and SOFP, therefore we need to include the fair value of NCI too ?

    November 28, 2015 at 11:57 am #285897
    MikeLittle
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    Agreed, just as I said in my earlier reply!

    November 28, 2015 at 11:59 am #285898
    huiwenn
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    okay thank you for that ! and also the other one would be impairment of goodwill. when do i need to minus subsi’s impairment of goodwill from the Computation of Goodwill Statement and when i do not ?

    November 28, 2015 at 12:04 pm #285901
    MikeLittle
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    Do you mean “subsid’s impairment” or do you mean the nci share of the impairment?

    In working W2 Goodwill, calculate the goodwill, calculate any impairment (if given as a percentage) and deduct in full from the goodwill

    But we may need to allocate that goodwill between “our share” and the nci

    This is necessary only if the nci is on a full, fair value basis. If nci is proportional, then no impairment is allocated to the nci

    Ok?

    November 28, 2015 at 12:10 pm #285903
    huiwenn
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    i mean subsid’s goodwill impairment. cause it confuses me whether do i needa minus the goodwill impairment from my consolidated goodwill.

    November 28, 2015 at 1:23 pm #285925
    MikeLittle
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    Absolutely – just like you deduct depreciation from the consolidated assets

    November 28, 2015 at 1:31 pm #285935
    huiwenn
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    however. base on past year questions :Bycomb and Plastik. Bycomb’s subsi’s goodwill impairment had minus off from the working of Goodwill Acquisition Statement. but Plastik does not minus off but instead, they minus of from Retained Earning and NCI.

    BPP’s question minus the goodwill impairment from the Goodwill Acquisition Statement , RE and NCI.

    November 28, 2015 at 3:04 pm #285956
    MikeLittle
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    The whole of accounting depends upon DOUBLE ENTRY!

    When it was debited to retained earnings and the nci, where do you imagine the credit entry was? To Goodwill!

    November 29, 2015 at 2:39 am #286038
    huiwenn
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    okay ! GOT IT ALL ! THANK YOU MUCH MUCH MUCHHHHHHH !

    November 29, 2015 at 9:38 am #286087
    MikeLittle
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    You’re welcome (but there’s no need for upper case typing!)

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