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- November 13, 2015 at 11:19 am #282127
Sir why we didnot amortise the initial cost of 1.2m for the year ended 3o nov14 after moving back the provision as an adjusting event.
an surely next time i will keep my queries small.ThanksNovember 13, 2015 at 11:38 am #282131I believe that we did! On 30 November 2013 we amortised by 1/3 of $1.2m didn’t we?
November 18, 2015 at 11:38 am #283585Sir do we need to proportion the exchange loss arising in net assets between parent and nci when nci 8s valued at a proportionate basis.Thank you.
November 18, 2015 at 11:39 am #283586Oe we just charge the whole loss in parents OCE sir
November 18, 2015 at 11:41 am #283587And also any exchange loss arising in goodwill do we proportion them according to their sharing ratio between nci and parent hen nci is calculated at a proportionate basis to net aseets.Thank you.
November 18, 2015 at 11:45 am #283589“do we need to proportion the exchange loss arising in net assets between parent and nci when nci 8s valued at a proportionate basis” – yes
“Oe we just charge the whole loss in parents OCE” – no
“And also any exchange loss arising in goodwill do we proportion them according to their sharing ratio between nci and parent hen nci is calculated at a proportionate basis to net aseets” – yes
November 18, 2015 at 12:01 pm #283594So that means we need to proportion exchange loss between nci and parent regardless valuing nci either at FV OR PROPORTINATELY.correct sir.
November 18, 2015 at 12:04 pm #283596And whats about impairment on goodwill sir how we account for them like do we charge impairment when valuing nci proportionately.Thank you.
November 18, 2015 at 12:14 pm #283599And sir i am a bit confused because in some solutions of foregn sub maths parent share of exchange gain is charge to retained earnibgs workings rather than oce.why
November 18, 2015 at 12:26 pm #283602I am totally confused now Tom clendon said we dont propirtinate exchange gain loss on net assets when nci is valued at propirtinate basis.sir please help really confused now.
November 18, 2015 at 1:02 pm #283606And sir if it is a consolidated P or L do we charge any forex gain loss full in parent retained earnings if nci is valued at proportionate to net assets.Thank you.
November 18, 2015 at 2:05 pm #283613Yes
November 18, 2015 at 2:06 pm #283614No, because when nci is proportionate, they don’t have any goodwill so we cannot in fairness charge them with an impairment of goodwill
November 18, 2015 at 2:08 pm #283615Only because I didn’t show the statement of other comprehensive income. You’re right – it should have featured in that statement that I omitted to show
November 18, 2015 at 2:09 pm #283616Where does Tom say that? And if you knew that, why did you bother asking me “Sir do we need to proportion the exchange loss arising in net assets between parent and nci when nci 8s valued at a proportionate basis”
November 18, 2015 at 2:11 pm #283618“if it is a consolidated P or L do we charge any forex gain loss full in parent retained earnings if nci is valued at proportionate to net assets” – what does Tom say?
November 18, 2015 at 2:57 pm #283635Oh yes i think i got it now may be tom was confused by my questions.
Anyways sir first of all
-If nci is calculated proportionately or at fair value we also proportion forex gain Or loss on net assets and goodwill between nci and parent.
-if nci is propirtionate basis and if it is consolidated P or L than we recond whole of forex gain or loss in parent retained earnings.
-No impairment charge to nci when nci is proportionately valued.Sir my last question if nci valued at fair value and it is consolidated Por L then how we proportionate Forex gain loss between parent and nci.so soory sir please dont mind.i am just trying my best to get this in my head.please help.
THANK YOU.November 18, 2015 at 3:16 pm #283639Finally sir where is our tips for p2.please sir we want your tips.
November 18, 2015 at 3:41 pm #283644These two seem to be self-contradictory!
“-If nci is calculated proportionately or at fair value we also proportion forex gain Or loss on net assets and goodwill between nci and parent.
-if nci is propirtionate basis and if it is consolidated P or L than we recond whole of forex gain or loss in parent retained earnings.”“-No impairment charge to nci when nci is proportionately valued.” should read “No goodwill impairment charge to nci when nci is proportionately valued”
Because ACCA are not publishing the September exam, there’s little point in us preparing detailed tips because we don’t know what was in the September paper
We shall be uploading tips from other major players and our own generalised tips
November 18, 2015 at 4:05 pm #283648Ok thank you sir.
November 18, 2015 at 5:16 pm #283657In fact the tips from BPP, Kaplan and Intuition are already uploaded
You’re welcome
November 18, 2015 at 5:41 pm #283661Ok sir thanks a lot.
November 19, 2015 at 6:45 am #283637Sir i am sorry my mistake.please dont mind.i am studying on ma own and without your help it would not be possible for me to solve this problems.please accept my apologies.
November 19, 2015 at 7:49 am #283855Dewan, no problem and certainly no need to apologise! I admire your spirit in tackling these exams on your own and am happy to assist where I can
November 21, 2015 at 10:12 am #284289Hi mike how are you hope well.ok mike i am confused why debt instruments that are financial asset(FA) are subsequently accounted for amortised cost if thet meet bussiness model and cahflow test.but what if the debt instrument FA have satisfied the test but are also sold before maturity if the holder of the FA have got another investment with higher returns.as 8 can see its measured at FVTOCI.bt FVTOCI is not it for equity instrument FA.please clarify me on this matter.Thanks.and could you please explain it in simple englishad i am not very goid at understanding complex english words .Thanks.
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