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IHT : NRB

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  • April 18, 2018 at 5:29 pm #447778
    dimeroglev
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    Hello, I have two questions on NRB

    1.page 209 notes
    Lifetime Transfers Chargeable on Death – 1 April 2018 (Tax year 2017/18)

    NRB from Tax year 2017/18 applied as follows:

    PET (20/11/2011) 29000 * 0% = …..
    CLT (15/7/2012) 296000 * 0% = …..
    ————-
    NRB Tax year 2017/18 = 325000 fully utilized.

    That’s why no NRB is available for PET(8/12/2016) 178000 * 40% IHT ; and no NRB is available for the Chargeable Estate at Death. Because the NRB from the tax year of the death has been fully utilized, applied as above, correct?

    2.page 210 notes
    Lifetime Transfers Chargeable on Death – 1 March 2018 (Tax year 2017/18)
    PET (1/9/12) Available NRB = 325000 – 310000 (the gross CLT < 7 years)…
    This NRB of 325000 is from which Tax year? From Tax year 2017/18?

    Marriage exemption:
    Parents of bride/groom 5000 (When parents give gifts to their children on their wedding?)
    Remoter ancestors – grandparents (when a grandparent gives gift to his grandchild on behalf of his/her wedding ?)
    Parties to the marriage themselves???? (bride, groom?)
    For others = 1000, but Illstration 13 page 146 says :
    9/July/2017 a gift to her nephew as a wedding gift of 8000 (the exemption is 1000, shouldn’t it be 2500?)

    April 23, 2018 at 4:21 am #448491
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    1. Correct
    2. On death we use nil rate band in force at the date of death!
    The 2,500 exemption for parties to the marriage is because the gifts are being made
    BEFORE the marriage. After the marriage all transfers between spouses are EXEMPT.
    A nephew is not a grandchild and hence comes under the “for others” category of 1,000.

    April 27, 2018 at 5:32 pm #449128
    dimeroglev
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    Thank you SO much for answering. I read elsewhere that you were balancing this with work so thanks again.

    A couple short questions if you don’t mind: GBP

    1. Q59 Rev Kit
    Entertainment of staff (party at 300 per person for 6 employees) 1800
    It says: fully deductible (the 150 limit applies to the taxable benefit for the employees)
    why is this when the party is at 300 per person.shouldn’t this be added back?

    2. Opening years loss relief (for individuals) against Total income in the preceding three tax years
    Before applying loss relief on the previous three tax years on a FIFO basis, should we first apply current year loss relief (if Total income in current year is above the PA 11500?).

    Thanks again, much appreciated !

    April 29, 2018 at 7:59 pm #449379
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    1. there are 2 separate rules here – there is no restriction on the ability of the business to gain tax relief for the entertaining expenses of its employees (as the note says), the problem is for the employee where the benefit in this situation is assessable as employment income and therefore just like a salary payment this is of course an allowable expense for the employer!
    2.No requirement to claim in current tax year – the taxpayer may use all the loss in an opening years relief claim if they so choose

    May 12, 2018 at 4:05 pm #451499
    dimeroglev
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    few more short questoions:
    1) Q 114 Ronald (pg 42 BPP Rev kit, Answer on page171)

    Commenced self employment 1/1/2017 Trading Profit
    1/1/2017 – 30/4/2017 = 3840
    1/5/2017 – 30/4/2018 = 12060

    CA Motor car CO2 = 142g/km, cost 18000 purchased 1/9/2017, 70% for private journeys
    Trading profit 2017/18 = ?
    in the Rev.Kit answer this is calculated as:
    period ended 30 April 2017 = 3840
    period ended 30 April 2018 = 12060
    less CA(18000*8%*30%) = (432)
    ———–
    11628
    x 8/12 = 7752
    ——–
    11592
    So, time – apportioning 8/12 only refers to the CA(1/9/17-30/4/18)
    Why is it calculated on the 12060 trading profit too, when commencement self employment is from 1/1/2017?
    Shouldn’t we use opening years rules here?

    2) Annual allowance for pension contributions

    Adj. income employees = net income + pension cont. to occupational pension schemes by employee + pension cont. to occupational pension schemes by employer
    The net income (for the purposes of the Adj. income calculation) doesn’t have to be from the Relevant earnings right (trading inc. emp. income, FHL income) ?

    3) Entrepreneur’s relief (employee 12 months prior to disposal)
    Q 139 Rev Kit BPP

    Bon is director in Alphabet ltd since 1/Feb/2017. Alphabet ltd taken over by XYZ plc on 15/Oct/2017 (Bon received XYZ shares for his shares in Alphabet ltd)
    March 2018 Bon made gift of 10000 shares in XYZplc to brother.

    So, 1/Feb/2017 to 15/Oct/2017 (takeover) is less than 12 months and Bon was not an employee in Alphabet ltd for the requisite time before disposal.

    The condition – employee 12 months prior to date of disposal, in this case, refers to the takeover date, right ? not the date (march 2018) when he gifted XYZ shares to brother..?

    4) NRB 7 years cumulation period – page148 example 2 (notes from open tuition) (answer on page 210)

    Step 3 Lifetime transfers chargeable on death
    Available NRB = 325000 – 310000(CLT gross<7 years from PET) = 15000

    Step 4 Estate
    Available NRB = 325000 – 290000(PET gross<7 years from death) = 35000

    Why do we use the NRB at death twice? for the estate the NRB should have been utilized in step 3…?

    5) Mobile telephone cost 400 provided to employee
    Taxable as employment income is 400 x 20% = 80 included in the taxable income computation. (q. 115 rev kit Wai)

    Chauffeur 9400 provided to employee = 9400 included in the taxable income computation
    Shouldn’t it be 9400 x 20% (use benefit) included in the taxable income computation?

    May 12, 2018 at 4:21 pm #451500
    dimeroglev
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    6. VAT default surcharge period

    Quarter ended VAT paid Submitted: on time / late
    30/Sep/2015 3100 late
    31/Dec/2015 21300 late
    31/Mar/2016 4300 on time
    30/Jun/2016 7600 on time
    30/Sep/2016 1900 on time
    31/Dec/2016 3200 on time
    31/Mar/2017 6900 late

    1. Late for 30/Sep/15 = surcharge liability notice until 30/Sep/2016
    2. Are there any other defaults in the surcharge liability period?
    Yes = one (31/Dec/2015)
    Penalty = 21300 x 2% = 426
    Surcharge liability notice will be extended to 31/Dec/2016?
    Penalty = 21300+

    Question: If there were two defaults in the surcharge liability period :
    31/Dec/2015 and 31/March/2016 the surcharge liability notice will be extended to 31/Dec/2016?
    Penalty = (21300+4300) x 5% = 1280?

    May 13, 2018 at 12:04 pm #451651
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    4. Read the answer carefully – section 3 clearly states why the CLT is used to determine the available NRB for the PET but it is NOT within 7 years of the date of death so is not to be considered in determining the NRB available for the chargeable estate at death – only the PET falls within the 7 years of the date of death so only it is used to determine the remaining NRB available for use by the chargeable estate

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