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  • This topic has 15 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • September 1, 2014 at 3:00 pm #193215
    noush24
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    Dear Sir,

    Referring to course notes chapter 9 example 1,could you please explain why there is split of 5M and 7M for Ausra & Danute?

    September 1, 2014 at 6:34 pm #193235
    MikeLittle
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    Because the acquisition was on 31 March and the Ausra and Danute year end is 31 October so that’s 5 months pre-acquisition and 7 months post-acquisition

    OK?

    September 3, 2014 at 12:49 pm #193473
    kamlesh
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    Helo Mike

    how are you ?

    i need help on how to do the question HEDRA for consolidation .. i am stuck in few areas of the question . Do you have a solved video solution or just a solved solution for it . ?

    thanks & regards
    kamlesh

    September 3, 2014 at 1:14 pm #193481
    MikeLittle
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    There is a solved solution but not an active video with me in front of a class.

    Be specific, what particular problems are you facing (and please give me an exam reference so I can check the question before I resolve your problems

    September 3, 2014 at 1:41 pm #193485
    kamlesh
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    can i please have the link of the solution.

    the problems i am facing it in the fair value adjustments and revaluations point 1.
    sir i dont know the exam reference of the question but i got in from kaplan publishing lecturer resource pack question no. 32

    could you please do the video solution. ?
    thanks

    September 3, 2014 at 1:47 pm #193489
    kamlesh
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    sir it came in december 2005.

    September 3, 2014 at 3:24 pm #193498
    MikeLittle
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    Why are you doing questions from 9 years ago????

    I don’t have a copy of the “kaplan publishing lecturer resource pack” and nor do I have the exam questions from when I was a little boy!

    2005!

    Kamlesh, of course I shall help you but it’s going to cost you (in terms of time, not money)

    You will need to type out the full details – probably the full question – in order to ensure that I have ALL relevant information.\\Now, I shall help if you want.

    But ask yourself “Shall I spend 30 minutes typing out a (n ancient) question for Mike to answer or would my time be better spent looking at questions from more recent years?”

    The choice is yours. Remember, I’m happy to help 🙂

    Do please let me know what you decide

    September 3, 2014 at 3:34 pm #193499
    MikeLittle
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    Is the question Hedra, Aragon and Salvador

    This one?

    Hedra, a public listed company, acquired the following investments:
    (i) On 1 October 20X4, 72 million shares in Salvador for an immediate cash payment of $195 million. Hedra agreed to pay further consideration on 30 September 20X5 of $49 million if the post acquisition profits of Salvador exceeded an agreed figure at that date (ignore discounting). Hedra has not yet accounted for this $49 million which is regarded as being at fair value. Salvador also accepted a $50 million 8% loan from Hedra at the date of its acquisition.
    (ii) On 1 April 20X5, 40 million shares in Aragon by way of a share exchange of two shares in Hedra for each acquired share in Aragon. The share market value of Hedra ‘s shares at the date of this share exchange was $2.50. Hedra has not yet recorded the acquisition of the investment in Aragon.

    Let me know soon please – as soon as possible

    September 3, 2014 at 3:38 pm #193500
    kamlesh
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    yes this is the one

    September 3, 2014 at 3:42 pm #193502
    kamlesh
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    mike im extremely sorry for giving you trouble for a question that was 9 years ago..
    i just heard a list of questions to practice so i was doing that..

    September 3, 2014 at 4:20 pm #193509
    MikeLittle
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    That’s ok, no problem

    I’ve found the question on the internet.

    Now, what are your specific problems – clearly I can’t do a worked example for you, so you’ll need to bring your issue down to specific problems

    September 3, 2014 at 9:50 pm #193567
    kamlesh
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    i just need to know about the point 1. in fair value and adjustments and what to do with the general revaulation account and how will it affect the CSFP.

    September 3, 2014 at 9:52 pm #193568
    kamlesh
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    can you do a worked example ? or as u said earlier above there is a solved solution can you send me the link of that..

    September 4, 2014 at 8:20 am #193597
    MikeLittle
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    Hi

    From what I can see …..

    The cost of acquisition is (in $millions)

    Cash 195 and
    Deferred cash 49

    Then there’s the nci to consider, but we cannot do that until we know the fair value of the subsidiary net assets at date of acquisition, and they are:

    Share capital 120
    Share premium 50
    Retained earnings 20
    Fair value adjustments:
    Land 20
    PPE 20 and
    Deferred tax 40

    That gives us a fair value of Salvador’s net assets at date of acquisition of 270, and the nci wants their 40% of that PLUS their goodwill ie (40% x 270) + 10 = 108 + 10 = 118

    The cost to Hedra was 195 + 49 = 244

    Add to that the nci of 118 and that gives a total of 362

    Now compare that with the fair valued net assets to give 362 – 270 = 92 goodwill

    OK so far?

    You mention also the Revaluation Reserve in your post

    The principle behind the calculation of the Revaluation Reserve (and any other reserve) is always the same old song: H’s own + H’s share of S post acq retained

    In the case of Hedra, the post acquisition MOVEMENT is in the values of Land and PPE

    The increase in the fair valued land post-acquisition is “By 30 September 20X5 this excess had increased by a further $5 million (note (a) (i))”

    The movement in the fair value of the PPE is the depreciation element on the revalued surplus “note (a)(ii) The fair value of some of Salvador’s plant at the date of acquisition was $20 million in excess of its carrying value and had a remaining life of four years (straight–line depreciation is used).”

    It’s a full year since acquisition so the depreciation on the revalued amount is one quarter of 20 = 5

    So, on acquisition, the Revaluation Reserve would have been credited with 20 (land) and 20 (PPE) and that 40 is part of the valuation of the subsidiary’s net assets at date of acquisition and features in the working W2 Goodwill. The debit entries would have been to Land and PPE respectively

    Post acquisition, there is a further increase of 5 in the land value so debit land and credit the Revaluation Reserve

    Post acquisition there has been an extra 5 depreciation so debit cost of sales (probably) and thereby reduce the Retained Earnings in working W3 and credit PPE

    Consolidated Revaluation Reserve (H’s own + H’s share of S post acq retained) is now:

    Per question 15
    Per note (a)(i) 12 (“The fair value of Hedra’s own land and buildings at 30 September 20X5 was $12 million in excess of its carrying value in the above statement of financial position.”)
    plus 60% x 5 = 3

    giving a total of 30

    Does that sort it out for you?

    September 4, 2014 at 1:49 pm #193680
    kamlesh
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    yes this solves all my problems. thank you for the solutions ..

    thanks mike once again.. you the best (Y) 🙂

    September 4, 2014 at 6:55 pm #193729
    MikeLittle
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    You’re welcome 🙂

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