In example 4 for the dividend growth estimate when im doing the square by 4 in keep getting 1.92 and not your answer? any idea whetre im going wrong? 33,000/28,000=1.17857 squared by 4

Sir is the growth mentioned (g) the growth in dividend. does it mean higher the dividend we have the pay the higher the cost of capital? is that why we are looking at the dividend growth?

It is best to watch the lectures in chapter order. This chapter isn’t heavily dependent on earlier chapters, but does assume that you understand the nature and the reason for discounting.

Sir why do we not use cost of equity in order to determine the market value of share in 2 years time. what I mean is if they require 14% they the market value in 2 years time will also should reflect this shouldn’t it?

I assume that you are referring to example 6. The MV in 2 years time is the PV of the dividends thereafter. However since all the dividends are higher than they are now due to 2 years growth, the MV (i.e. the present value) will be automatically higher than it is now by 2 years growth.

In example 6, Why is it that while using the Market value formula, the growth rate is different to using the ‘rb’ growth method. i.e. Po= 2.80, Do= 0.20, g is unknown, Re= 0.18

2.80 = 0.20 (1-g) ————— , the value for g is 10.13% whereas rb gives you a vale of 6.75%. 0.18 +g

Could you please let me know where I’m going wrong here? Thank you very much.

Nevermind, I confirmed the figures myself with recalculation, I am truly sorry for disturbing the class, I truly apologize……… I really wish there was a delete option, I am truly sorry for the disturbance

It would still be the present value of expected future dividends and investors will be expecting dividends at some time in the future even if it is not next year.

Thank you for all your hard work and making this resource available free of charge.

Just to let you know in the lecture notes (for Sep-Dec 2019 exam) you need to correct a typo in the answer for chapter 17 example 2. Currently it says Do is 30c but it should be 40 (the answer is the same though).

I think the answer in example 6 is wrong. In example 6, I can indicate that the dividend payout ratio is 0.2/0.32 = 37.5%. I think that the proportion retained should be b = 100 – 37.5 = 62.5%.

Provided that you are watching the free lectures that work through the lecture notes, then you do not really need the Study Text – they are a complete free course and cover everything needed to be able to pass the exam well.

The book that is essential is the Revision Kit because it contains lots of past exam (and other exam standard) questions. Question practice is vital to passing the exam.

The market value is always the present value of the future expected dividends. If we go forward a year in time, then the future dividends will all be higher by the dividend growth rate, and therefore the present value in a years time will also be higher by the same dividend growth rate.

(the required rate of return depends on the general rates of return in the country and the riskiness of the shares – it does not depend on the dividend growth rate)

jamescoffey565 says

In example 4 for the dividend growth estimate when im doing the square by 4 in keep getting 1.92 and not your answer? any idea whetre im going wrong? 33,000/28,000=1.17857 squared by 4

thanks,

james

John Moffat says

It is the 4th root, not to the power 4.

dennissherpa101 says

Sir is the growth mentioned (g) the growth in dividend. does it mean higher the dividend we have the pay the higher the cost of capital? is that why we are looking at the dividend growth?

dennissherpa101 says

Sir Do I need to watch previous lectures to understand this chapter better? Is this chapter dependent to other chapters?

John Moffat says

It is best to watch the lectures in chapter order. This chapter isn’t heavily dependent on earlier chapters, but does assume that you understand the nature and the reason for discounting.

dennissherpa101 says

Sir why do we not use cost of equity in order to determine the market value of share in 2 years time. what I mean is if they require 14% they the market value in 2 years time will also should reflect this shouldn’t it?

John Moffat says

I assume that you are referring to example 6. The MV in 2 years time is the PV of the dividends thereafter. However since all the dividends are higher than they are now due to 2 years growth, the MV (i.e. the present value) will be automatically higher than it is now by 2 years growth.

aishwarya1294@gmail.com says

In example 6, Why is it that while using the Market value formula, the growth rate is different to using the ‘rb’ growth method.

i.e. Po= 2.80, Do= 0.20, g is unknown, Re= 0.18

2.80 = 0.20 (1-g)

————— , the value for g is 10.13% whereas rb gives you a vale of 6.75%.

0.18 +g

Could you please let me know where I’m going wrong here?

Thank you very much.

John Moffat says

Just because the rate of return on reinvestment is 18%, it does not mean that the shareholders required rate of return is 18%.

KGBEAST says

Mr. Moffat, when calculating the figure of shareholders expected return, MUST we express all the figures in CENTS OR DOLLARS??????? I am confused……

KGBEAST says

Nevermind, I confirmed the figures myself with recalculation, I am truly sorry for disturbing the class, I truly apologize……… I really wish there was a delete option, I am truly sorry for the disturbance

smashcroft says

If a company paid no dividend and instead re-invested all earnings in growth then how would the Cost of Equity / market value be determined?

John Moffat says

It would still be the present value of expected future dividends and investors will be expecting dividends at some time in the future even if it is not next year.

mohammed31071996 says

@altun: I know it’s a late reply but it would be better if you repost this in the Ask the FM Tutor Forum :)!

joelsasi says

Dear Mr John,

Thank you very much for your effort and i really appreciate the way you explain on every aspect in this Subject.

John Moffat says

Thank you for your comment 🙂

freddie1980 says

Hello John,

Thank you for all your hard work and making this resource available free of charge.

Just to let you know in the lecture notes (for Sep-Dec 2019 exam) you need to correct a typo in the answer for chapter 17 example 2. Currently it says Do is 30c but it should be 40 (the answer is the same though).

John Moffat says

Thank you for letting me know (and thank you for your comment).

vutuanminhpwcvn says

I think the answer in example 6 is wrong.

In example 6, I can indicate that the dividend payout ratio is 0.2/0.32 = 37.5%.

I think that the proportion retained should be b = 100 – 37.5 = 62.5%.

John Moffat says

No – the answer is correct.

The dividend payout ratio is indeed 020/0.32, but that is not equal to 37.5% !! It equals 62.5%, and so the proportion retained is 100 – 62.5 = 37.5%.

rohanyadav says

Sir are this online notes are enough to study for ….or do we have to study from kaplan textbook as well …

John Moffat says

Provided that you are watching the free lectures that work through the lecture notes, then you do not really need the Study Text – they are a complete free course and cover everything needed to be able to pass the exam well.

The book that is essential is the Revision Kit because it contains lots of past exam (and other exam standard) questions. Question practice is vital to passing the exam.

lilcool says

Are the lecture videos available to download as well?

John Moffat says

No – they can only be watched online.

vutuanminhpwcvn says

In example 6, why the market value of shares grow at the same rate of dividend, but not the required rate of return?

John Moffat says

The market value is always the present value of the future expected dividends.

If we go forward a year in time, then the future dividends will all be higher by the dividend growth rate, and therefore the present value in a years time will also be higher by the same dividend growth rate.

(the required rate of return depends on the general rates of return in the country and the riskiness of the shares – it does not depend on the dividend growth rate)