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goodwill recognition

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  • This topic has 7 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 1 year ago by saadkx.
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  • May 17, 2021 at 2:29 pm #620836
    saadkx
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    Hello,

    My understanding of goodwill when a parent acquires a subsidiary is as follows:

    In the single entity the cost of acquisition will be shown as investment. Upon consolidation, this investment will be removed and replaced with the assets
    and liabilities of the subsidiary, with the difference being recognized as goodwill.

    My confusion comes from the fact that in some single entity accounts (where the parent has a sub) I have seen goodwill being recognize. As above,
    I was under the impression that goodwill was a consolidation adjustment. Is there scope to recognize subsidiary goodwill in single entity accounts
    if you are not producing consolidated accounts? And/or is it a case of them directly buying the goodwill of a company.

    my point is , can we recognized goodwill separately in parent account or subsidiary account or both?

    May 17, 2021 at 8:06 pm #620884
    P2-D2
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    Hi,

    This goodwill figure in the subsidiary accounts will be the excess amounts that they have paid to acquire a sole trader business or similar.

    Thanks

    May 18, 2021 at 6:22 am #620906
    saadkx
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    so you are saying if the subsidiary in the past bought some sole trader business and then later on in the future being bought by the parent and they have some goodwill value in the books
    ,so now we can recognized goodwill in the subsidiary ?
    is this the only way to recognized goodwill separately ?
    let say we as a parent acquire a co and paid extra 100$ , now can we just recognized this 100$ as a goodwill in the subsidiary books because we as parent purchase it ( not internally generated ) ?

    May 19, 2021 at 10:10 pm #621129
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    Yes, that is what I’m saying but it would not be consolidated and would be written off in the group accounts.

    May 20, 2021 at 6:19 am #621152
    saadkx
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    Ok i get the sole trader goodwill concept , let say if we just acquire a CO without any goodwill in the past in its books and we as a parent will recognized goodwill in group account based on fair value of its net asset(subsidiary) , my point is can we recognized this goodwill separately in subsidiary books which parent paid for ???

    May 21, 2021 at 7:56 pm #621365
    saadkx
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    ??

    May 22, 2021 at 9:43 am #621416
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    What is with the ?? This is a free service and therefore there is not going to be an instantaneous reply to your query. I check the forum on a Wednesday and at the weekends. As it gets closer to the exams then I will check it more regularly. Also, a simple thanks goes a long way for the initial replies that I’ve already taken the time given to you.

    To answer your question, then no, you cannot do this and why would you do this? Where have we ever done this? It is an asset of the group and so recognised in the group accounts.

    Thanks

    May 22, 2021 at 2:25 pm #621448
    saadkx
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    first of all , really sorry for the question marks …..now that i know the mechanism of your replies i would not post a reminder message…..
    and thank you very much for your precious time it means a lot to me.

    and from your answer to the query , goodwill will only be recognized in the group accounts.

    THANK YOU.

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